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    Why on earth are we discussing trading Devin Mesoraco?!? People do realize that even if he's not the starter this year, he is the following AND he's the only viable back-up we have right now? You guys get this...right? We don't have Grandal sitting down there too anymore. We CANNOT trade Mesoraco IMO. Period.
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    Re: Mesoraco

    They are not trading Mes, nor should they. They believe in the future of his middle of the order bat.

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    I would hate to see them trade Mesoraco. He has potential with the stick. They have a good defensive, switch hitting catcher in the minors in Tucker Barnhart. Those two could provide a nice tandem for years to come.
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    I think, could they get a guy like Wil Myers, they should do that post-haste.

    Mesoraco strikes me as a career backup guy. A lesser, RH David Ross.

    And that's only if he can shorten his swing and stop uppercutting.

    I'd deal him tomorrow and lose no sleep.
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    Re: Mesoraco

    Reds do not have a spot for Wil Myers.
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    Re: Mesoraco

    He played 78 games last year in CF.

    If you can truly get him for Mesoraco, you do that deal eight days a week. Backup catchers are cheap and plentiful.
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    Re: Mesoraco

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    I think, could they get a guy like Wil Myers, they should do that post-haste.

    Mesoraco strikes me as a career backup guy. A lesser, RH David Ross.

    And that's only if he can shorten his swing and stop uppercutting.

    I'd deal him tomorrow and lose no sleep.
    Ross never put up offensive numbers anywhere near what Mesoraco did in the minors at the same age. Ross was actually always a backup, even in the minors.

    Mesoraco could become the next Jeff Clement or he could become the next Brian McCann, or something in between. But his future isn't cemented yet. No need to assume he's going to fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    ... his future isn't cemented yet. No need to assume he's going to fail.
    Couldn't you say that about every prospect in the game?

    Isn't it the job of Red management (and armchair amateur GMs everywhere) to break down prospects of all shapes, sizes, and the like?
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    I'm not sold on Mez either. And based on his benching late in the season, I'm not sure the Reds are either. But they can't act like it.

    If some team blows you away with a deal, I take it in a heartbeat.

    I know Hanigan is like 32, but he simply is underrated. I want Hanigan catching 80% of the games again next season. I wish they could have signed Navarro and let Mez catch every game at Louisville next season.
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    Re: Mesoraco

    He played 78 games last year in CF.
    Doesn't matter. Reds wouldn't put Myers (or Bruce) in CF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    He played 78 games last year in CF.

    If you can truly get him for Mesoraco, you do that deal eight days a week. Backup catchers are cheap and plentiful.
    But that's just it, many don't see him as a backup catcher...they see Hanigan as the backup catcher moving forward. (I don't personally...but I digress) He's a solid reciever, very intelligent, young, cheap, and has the skills to be a solid middle of the order bat. Those are NOT cheap and plentiful. Yeah, he had a poor year last season...but who didn't expect a poor season with the stick for a rookie catcher?
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    Re: Mesoraco

    Mes has way more bat speed than Ross. Not an apt comparison at all IMO.

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    Every player doesn't have instant success. I am amazed at how many folks are ready to write off a young talent so quickly.
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    Re: Mesoraco

    I'm not saying that the Reds should try to trade Mes, but I guess I would be less upset than many on here if he was traded.

    He can certainly change my mind on this but he just looked overmatched last season. No need to tell me he's young, he's a catcher,etc...I know all that. But he just didn't pass the eyeball test.

    That said, I think he was poorly used (didn't play enough) last year and if I were calling the shots, Hanigan is my opening day catcher due to seniority, but I give the majority of games to Mes.

    We have to see what we have in this kid.

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    So we are down on a guy with 237 career plate appearances? That's still a fairly small sample.


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