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    Greinke to the Dodgers

    For 6 years, over $140 million.

    The Yankees have officially relocated to L.A. County.
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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    It's just freaking insane what they've spent over the past year. IN-SANE!
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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    I was hoping hoping the Rangers would be able to get him. I imagine they'll go all out to get Hamilton now.

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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    I was hoping hoping the Rangers would be able to get him. I imagine they'll go all out to get Hamilton now.
    I was thinking the same thing, but the Rangers are apparently still going after Upton. If the Rangers can pry him away from Arizona, that leaves Hamilton for a team like the Mariners, and leaves players like Swisher and Bourn still on the market. It seems like at least one high-profile outfielder is going to be left without a team when the music stops.

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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    For all the money the Dodgers have spent, I still don't think they're the best team in the NL, or even their division for that matter. We'll see how Greinke handles the pressure of that huge contract. Crawford and Beckett are huge question marks, Adrian Gonzalez is in decline... sure, they're spending a lot of dough. But can't me as someone who says they're not spending it very wisely.

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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    It got me curious. Just since July of this year, the Dodgers have added....

    Brandon League (Trade with M's)
    Shane Victorino (Trade with Phils)
    Hanley Ramirez
    Randy Choate (Trade with Fish)
    Adrian Gonzalez
    Josh Beckett
    Carl Crawford
    Nick Punto (Trade with BoSox)

    Resign League 22million/3years (could be 33.5/3 with incentives)
    Won bidding on Hyun-Jin Ryu for 25.7 million (this was just to win the right to NEGOTIATE with him) They have until 4pm tomorrow to sign him or they just flushed the 25.7 million.
    Sign Greinke for 147 million/6 years.

    They had the highest payroll in the majors BEFORE they signed League & Greinke (and maybe Ryu)

    As of sept 2012...


    Dodgers, $193.8MM
    Phillies, $133.1MM
    Yankees, $119.1MM
    Cardinals, $92.8MM
    Angels, $92.3MM
    Tigers, $90.2MM
    Rangers, $84.4MM
    White Sox, $83.3MM
    Giants, $81.0MM
    Reds, $74.1MM
    Twins, $68.3MM
    Marlins, $67.5MM
    Blue Jays, $61.3MM
    Nationals, $58.6MM
    Diamondbacks, $55.0MM
    Mets, $54.5MM
    Orioles, $53.2MM
    Brewers, $52.4MM
    Rockies, $46.5MM
    Red Sox, $45.6MM
    Cubs, $41.8MM
    Mariners, $40.5MM
    Royals, $34.9MM
    Pirates, $27.9MM
    Padres, $26.0MM
    Athletics, $23.0MM
    Rays, $18.6MM
    Braves, $15.2MM
    Indians, $11MM
    Astros, $5.5MM

    Now tack on League, Greinke & Ryu. Good lord. Heck, they still owe 8.5 million a year to Ramirez. *rolls eyes*
    Last edited by _Sir_Charles_; 12-08-2012 at 09:44 PM.
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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Won bidding on Hyun-Jin Ryu for 25.7 million (this was just to win the right to NEGOTIATE with him) They have until 4pm tomorrow to sign him or they just flushed the 25.7 million.
    This isn't true. With Japanese teams it would be, but Ryu is from the Korean Leagues and they only get to keep the money if the player signs, otherwise it is returned.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ey...n-negotiations

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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    This isn't true. With Japanese teams it would be, but Ryu is from the Korean Leagues and they only get to keep the money if the player signs, otherwise it is returned.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ey...n-negotiations
    Ah, thanks. I thought it was the same for both. Okay so now they're just very insane...not very, very insane.
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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Ah, thanks. I thought it was the same for both. Okay so now they're just very insane...not very, very insane.
    Actually, it is the same, they don't pay the posting fee unless they sign the player.

    If the player does not sign a contract with the MLB team by the end of the signing period, the player is returned to the NPB team and the NPB team does not receive the bid money.
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/bu...Posting_System
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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    Actually, it is the same, they don't pay the posting fee unless they sign the player.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/bu...Posting_System
    LOL. Well color me confused. :O) I could've swore I read somewhere that the big risk with those deals is that if you can't sign the guy you forfeit a ton of money. Oh well, thanks for the heads up.
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    Bruce/Votto neck and neck MVP race (neither takes it)
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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    It got me curious. Just since July of this year, the Dodgers have added....

    Brandon League (Trade with M's)
    Shane Victorino (Trade with Phils)
    Hanley Ramirez
    Randy Choate (Trade with Fish)
    Adrian Gonzalez
    Josh Beckett
    Carl Crawford
    Nick Punto (Trade with BoSox)

    Resign League 22million/3years (could be 33.5/3 with incentives)
    Won bidding on Hyun-Jin Ryu for 25.7 million (this was just to win the right to NEGOTIATE with him) They have until 4pm tomorrow to sign him or they just flushed the 25.7 million.
    Sign Greinke for 147 million/6 years.

    They had the highest payroll in the majors BEFORE they signed League & Greinke (and maybe Ryu)

    As of sept 2012...


    Dodgers, $193.8MM
    Phillies, $133.1MM
    Yankees, $119.1MM
    Cardinals, $92.8MM
    Angels, $92.3MM
    Tigers, $90.2MM
    Rangers, $84.4MM
    White Sox, $83.3MM
    Giants, $81.0MM
    Reds, $74.1MM
    Twins, $68.3MM
    Marlins, $67.5MM
    Blue Jays, $61.3MM
    Nationals, $58.6MM
    Diamondbacks, $55.0MM
    Mets, $54.5MM
    Orioles, $53.2MM
    Brewers, $52.4MM
    Rockies, $46.5MM
    Red Sox, $45.6MM
    Cubs, $41.8MM
    Mariners, $40.5MM
    Royals, $34.9MM
    Pirates, $27.9MM
    Padres, $26.0MM
    Athletics, $23.0MM
    Rays, $18.6MM
    Braves, $15.2MM
    Indians, $11MM
    Astros, $5.5MM

    Now tack on League, Greinke & Ryu. Good lord. Heck, they still owe 8.5 million a year to Ramirez. *rolls eyes*
    What exactly are those numbers listed? Braves at 15.2 MM?

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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    What exactly are those numbers listed? Braves at 15.2 MM?
    Salary committed to 2013 (as of september I believe)

    From here. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...mmitments.html
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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Salary committed to 2013 (as of september I believe)

    From here. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...mmitments.html
    Dan Uggla and Brian McCann combined will make well over the Braves 15 MM that is listed. Something seems off.

    edit - I'm thinking it doesn't include the option years for McCann,Hudson,etc. Info is just out of date now that they have been exercised.
    Last edited by kaldaniels; 12-10-2012 at 08:07 AM.

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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Won bidding on Hyun-Jin Ryu for 25.7 million (this was just to win the right to NEGOTIATE with him) They have until 4pm tomorrow to sign him or they just flushed the 25.7 million.
    If they don't sign him, they don't pay the posting fee.

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    Re: Greinke to the Dodgers

    And so it begins...

    The Dodgers make $280M a year just from their TV deal.

    To put that in perspective, the Dodgers could sign 10 more Grienke contracts and still not have to touch any of their other revenue streams, which are substantial.

    Another way to look at it, the Dodgers could go $82M over the Luxary Tax threshold, and still not have to touch any of their other revenue streams. Nearly half of the MLB teams payrolls are less than $82M.
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