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    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    I'm a fan, go to games, and entitled to my opinion. It may not agree with yours or the majority, but I'm entitled to it, nonetheless. .
    What, pray tell, is that opinion? That sports franchises should only market to their English-speaking clients? Whatever your opinion about immigrant populations in America, that's just bad business.
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    Re: Los Rojos

    Looks like Milwaukee's going full speed ahead... How long have they been using the Cerveceros uniforms?
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/brewe...179034041.html

    Carlos Gomez, June 9 vs. Philadelphia. Raise your hand if you thought you'd ever see a Gomez bobblehead. He'll be featured in a Cerveceros uniform (Spanish for Brewers) on the team's annual Cerveceros Day.

    Polish Sausage, June 23 vs. Atlanta. As the Brewers host Polish Heritage Day, one of the Famous Racing Sausages gets his due wearing a "Piwowarzy" jersey. Yes, that's the Polish translation for Brewers.
    [Los Rojos...I hate

    Rojos (just plain Rojos)...I love.
    Here, here... is there some way to tell the team to drop the "Los"? I guess I also don't like the "Los" because I'm an old Reds fan - the old rivalry still burns...
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    Re: Los Rojos

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    That sports franchises should only market to their English-speaking clients? Whatever your opinion about immigrant populations in America, that's just bad business.
    Well, I think we all realize, at this point in this conversation, that all of us, English speakers included, are immigrants to this country, unless you are Native American (hey, I'm 1/32 Cherokee! ). And if you do enough history, even the native Americans probably came over the Bering Bridge or up from Central and South America.

    And no one was playing baseball at that time.

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    (hey, I'm 1/32 Cherokee!).
    Me too! As my Dad likes to say "Get a nosebleed and we're out of the tribe..."
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    Re: Los Rojos

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyDuran View Post
    Looks like Milwaukee's going full speed ahead... How long have they been using the Cerveceros uniforms?
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/brewe...179034041.html



    Here, here... is there some way to tell the team to drop the "Los"? I guess I also don't like the "Los" because I'm an old Reds fan - the old rivalry still burns...
    Let's do it. The "Los" is for teams that don't have a translation, like "Los Mets" and "Los Dodgers". But look at jerseys from the Winter Leagues. No "Los" anywhere. Its "Tigres", "Leones", "Tiburones", "Aguilas", "Venados", "Cangrejeros", to name a few.


    We can call it the "Lose the Los" petition.
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    Re: Los Rojos

    Quote Originally Posted by Tadasimha View Post
    How about one in kanji? Not sure how to make it plural but I did find this one for "red"
    It would probably just be a loanword:

    レ-ヅス

    Literally: "Re-dusu" (they don't have "d" or "s" sounds without vowels.) Not as cool-looking as your aka (red) kanji.

    Plural is weird in Japanese too...I'm not sure there is a plural for aka in Japanese.
    "Bring on Rod Stupid!"

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    Re: Los Rojos

    I may be in the minority, but I actually like the look of the jerseys.
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    Why in the world would anyone assume that this is a marketing tool only to the local fanbase? The Reds have a strong, strong tradition of star players with Spanish-speaking roots -- Concepcion, Rijo, etc. Larkin is coaching in the DR and a whole new generation of players will come to know him. It's always been my understanding that the Reds have one of the largest MLB fanbases in Latin America.

    One of the most exciting pitchers in baseball is on our team and he is possibly becoming a starter this year. Last I heard he still speaks Spanish almost exclusively. For the Reds NOT to take advantage of the people in Cuba and all over Latin America who no doubt revere him would be completely foolish. I'm frankly surprised they haven't done it before this. I see Spanish-language jerseys for other MLB teams all the time, including the Pirates (Piratas!) Mostly because people the world over still have a fair amount of respect for that Clemente guy.

    Spanish-speaking players are a huge part of MLB; their Spanish-speaking fans are a huge part of the fanbase. Latin American culture is both historically and presently intrinsic to the entire game. To be dismissive of this jersey based on some nationalistic language thing is not only ridiculous, it is ignorant of the makeup of the sport itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    Well, I think we all realize, at this point in this conversation, that all of us, English speakers included, are immigrants to this country, unless you are Native American (hey, I'm 1/32 Cherokee! ). And if you do enough history, even the native Americans probably came over the Bering Bridge or up from Central and South America.

    And no one was playing baseball at that time.
    Exactly. Couldn't agree more. That's why the "Learn to speak English or go home" argument always raises my hackles. I'm just curious whether or not that's the hard-lined position of the poster I was quoting in my post.
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    Re: Los Rojos

    Quote Originally Posted by reds1869 View Post
    I teach at a school with a large Spanish-speaking population. The kids and their families are quite excited by the new jersey.
    Who doesn't love NJ?

    Oh wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by medford View Post
    Los Rojos...I hate

    Rojos (just plain Rojos)...I love.

    I wish they'd drop the "los" part, unless they're going to start putting "the Reds" on the front of our jersey.

    Could be worse, I think the Lakers go with "Los Lakers" while the bulls and heat go w/ "los Bulls" and "los Heat".

    I'm not sure what the spanish word for "laker" is, but having a red and black jersey that just said "Toros" would be cool. I suppose one that said "Caliente" (is that the right word, been a long time) wouldn't be so cool.
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    Re: Los Rojos

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    What, pray tell, is that opinion? That sports franchises should only market to their English-speaking clients? Whatever your opinion about immigrant populations in America, that's just bad business.
    Exactly what I stated earlier, if you would care to read. The jersey is ugly and unnecessary in my opinion. Do they need a jersey so every group can feel good Where's it end???? It's baseball. Wear your uniform and play the game.
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    Re: Los Rojos

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    Exactly what I stated earlier, if you would care to read. The jersey is ugly and unnecessary in my opinion. Do they need a jersey so every group can feel good Where's it end???? It's baseball. Wear your uniform and play the game.
    I hear there's been a protest, and now they'll be wearing German, French, Swedish, Russian, Chinese, Japanese..........etc........language appropriate uniforms here and there this season.
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    Re: Los Rojos

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    Exactly what I stated earlier, if you would care to read. The jersey is ugly and unnecessary in my opinion. Do they need a jersey so every group can feel good Where's it end???? It's baseball. Wear your uniform and play the game.

    Well it's all about the Jackson's, (and Franklin's and Hamilton's) we know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    I hear there's been a protest, and now they'll be wearing German, French, Swedish, Russian, Chinese, Japanese..........etc........language appropriate uniforms here and there this season.


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