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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Would this send Bruce to CF? Really would have liked to seen this prior to the Ludwick deal, but I certainly wouldn't complain.
    I suppose you can't always do things in exactly the right order. Had Walt not moved in when he did on Ludwick, he may have lost him. And you never know what sorts of exchanges the Indians are having about Choo.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Would this send Bruce to CF? Really would have liked to seen this prior to the Ludwick deal, but I certainly wouldn't complain.
    No. The rumor says Choo would play CF.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
    I wish they wouldn't have gotten Ludwick if this is true...
    I tend to agree, though I like the audacity of either Choo or Bruce in CF. I assume it would be Choo because Dusty's prime directive is the CF hits leadoff.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    I suppose you can't always do things in exactly the right order. Had Walt not moved in when he did on Ludwick, he may have lost him. And you never know what sorts of exchanges the Indians are having about Choo.
    Yeah, of course. That said, a 100 point boost in OBP from leadoff would certainly offset the defensive drop off.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Choo will be FA after 2013. Hopefully Reds make qualifying offer and get the picks. If he accepts, they can (hopefully) always trade Ludwick.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Choo as a centerfielder? Color me skeptical. Bruce in center and Choo in right? That I could get behind. Would be less than ideal at both positions, but better than Choo in center, no?
    Ya, I'm having trouble seeing Choo as an everyday centerfielder.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Ludwick needs his rest.

    My guess is that Choo would play some CF and some LF.

    Heisey would fill in at center when Ludwick rests, with Choo moving to LF.

    That's my guess.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Choo will be FA after 2013. Hopefully Reds make qualifying offer and get the picks. If he accepts, they can (hopefully) always trade Ludwick.
    Yep. The Reds would have him for 1 season and if they were to keep him they'd have to negotiate with Scott Boras.

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    Worst case Choo can't really play CF, he moves to LF and Hamilton takes over CF. Otherwise, they trade Ludwick and Heisey takes over CF. Either way I'll take it- it's better than the status quo.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Ludwick needs his rest.

    My guess is that Choo would play some CF and some LF.

    Heisey would fill in at center when Ludwick rests, with Choo moving to LF.

    That's my guess.
    This makes sense too.
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    This would be perhaps the best of all possible upgrades to bridge the way to Hamilton's arrival.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Worst case Choo can't really play CF, he moves to LF and Hamilton takes over CF. Otherwise, they trade Ludwick and Heisey takes over CF. Either way I'll take it- it's better than the status quo.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Despite the rumor being Choo in CF, they'd have plenty of time to make that decision later if they feel Bruce would be better there.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Looking at BRef, I can't tell if Choo is a FA after 2013 or 2014. Anyone have a better grasp on it?
    From Cot's (aka BP), he's in his final arb year (MLB service time of 5.119).

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    1 year/$4.9M (2012)
    	re-signed by Cleveland 1/17/12 (avoided arbitration)
    
    1 year/$3.975M (2011)
    	re-signed by Cleveland 1/18/11 (avoided arbitration)
    
    1 year/$0.4611M (2010)
    	re-signed by Cleveland 3/10/10
    
    1 year/$0.4203M (2009)
    	re-signed by Cleveland 2/22/09 ($234,300 in minors)
    
    1 year/$0.3904M (2008)
    	re-signed by Cleveland 3/7/08
    
    1 year/$0.3831M (2007)
    	re-signed by Cleveland 2/07 (split contract paying $109,600 in minors)
    
    1 year (2006)
    	re-signed by Cleveland 3/06
    	acquired by Cleveland in trade from Seattle 7/06, with Indians paying Mariners undisclosed amount of cash
    
    signed by Cleveland as a free agent from South Korea in 2000
    
    $1.3M signing bonus
    
    agent: Scott Boras
    
    ML service: 5.119
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by jhu1321 View Post
    Despite the rumor being Choo in CF, they'd have plenty of time to make that decision later if they feel Bruce would be better there.
    I concur. I think at this point it's about adding productive bats that can play somewhere. They'll have plenty of time to figure out exactly how the rest works out. No one says this has to be the last deal they make either.
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