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Thread: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Whoa... he makes out more? I knew he was a baseball player -- but I guess he's also a player!

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Seems like the every day lineup, bench and rotation may be pretty-much set (assuming they close the deal on Hanrahan). All that seems to be left is whittling down the bullpen, whihc is a minor embarrassment of riches.

    CF Shin-Soo Choo
    2B Brandon Phillips
    1B Joey Votto
    LF Ryan Ludwick
    RF Jay Bruce
    3B Todd Frazier
    SS Zach Cozart
    CA Ryan Hanigan

    IF Jason McDonald
    IF Jack Hanrahan
    OF Chris Heisey
    OF Xavier Paul
    CA Devin Mesaraco

    S1 Jonny Cueto
    S2 Mat Latos
    S3 Aroldis Chapman
    S4 Homer Bailey
    S5 Bronson Arroyo
    LR Mike Leake/Sam Lecure
    MR Nick Massett/Logan Ondrusek
    R7 Jose Arredondo/Alfredo Simon
    L7 Tony Cingrani/Ryan Dennick
    R8 JJ Hoover
    L8 Sean Marshall
    CL Jonathan Broxton
    Last edited by corkedbat; 12-11-2012 at 09:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superdude View Post
    That's not the only way of creating value. I feel like you're being a little narrowminded on this issue.
    Of course it isn't. But it is a real big part of it.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    I mean, are we really complaining about the one weak bat in our lineup that still provides offensive pop and great defense?
    LOL. I know. I'm not getting it.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Cozarts the new low man on the totem pole. Look out Zack, we're coming for you.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Seems like the every day lineup, bench and rotation may be pretty-much set (assuming they close the deal on Hanrahan). All that seems to be left is whittling down the bullpen, whihc is a minor embarrassment of riches.

    CF Shin-Soo Choo
    2B Brandon Phillips
    1B Joey Votto
    LF Ryan Ludwick
    RF Jay Bruce
    3B Todd Frazier
    SS Zach Cozart
    CA Ryan Hanigan

    IF Jason McDonald
    IF Jack Hanrahan
    OF Chris Heisey
    OF Xavier Paul
    CA Devin Mesaraco

    S1 Jonny Cueto
    S2 Mat Latos
    S3 Aroldis Chapman
    S4 Homer Bailey
    S5 Bronson Arroyo
    LR Mike Leake
    MR Nick Massett/Logan Ondrusek
    R7 Jose Arredondo/Alfredo Simon
    L7 Tony Cingrani/Ryan Dennick
    R8 JJ Hoover
    L8 Sean Marshall
    CL Jonathan Broxton
    Only minor point... I really don't see the Reds putting Leake in middle relief if he doesn't make the rotation. I think they'll use their last real chance at an option and let him start in AAA until needed.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Seems like the every day lineup, bench and rotation may be pretty-much set (assuming they close the deal on Hanrahan). All that seems to be left is whittling down the bullpen, whihc is a minor embarrassment of riches.

    CF Shin-Soo Choo
    2B Brandon Phillips
    1B Joey Votto
    LF Ryan Ludwick
    RF Jay Bruce
    3B Todd Frazier
    SS Zach Cozart
    CA Ryan Hanigan

    IF Jason McDonald
    IF Jack Hanrahan
    OF Chris Heisey
    OF Xavier Paul
    CA Devin Mesaraco

    S1 Jonny Cueto
    S2 Mat Latos
    S3 Aroldis Chapman
    S4 Homer Bailey
    S5 Bronson Arroyo
    LR Mike Leake
    MR Nick Massett/Logan Ondrusek
    R7 Jose Arredondo/Alfredo Simon
    L7 Tony Cingrani/Ryan Dennick
    R8 JJ Hoover
    L8 Sean Marshall
    CL Jonathan Broxton
    plus Sam LeCure!

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    nm
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    On the downside, I can't see the Reds making any more significant trades for a while...

    ...because they are completely set at every position. Wow.
    Go BLUE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    2011 was the 1971 to the 2010.

    At least that's how I rationalize it.
    Me too. Now it's like 1973 all over again.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    plus Sam LeCure!
    He was there at one point. Musta slipped off to the clubhouse to drain the lizard.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    In 149 big league games, Cozart is a 3 win player according to baseball-reference.com. I'll take that from a shortstop.
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    If Zack Cozart is the most pressing of our concerns, I'd say we're a legitimate World Series contender, no?

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    Call me crazy, but I still think Walt might have something up his sleeve. He's still got Leake available, for example. There are some teams out there that could use a pitcher like that. And I think the FO values D too much not to at least try to rectify the CF situation...

    Don't get me wrong. I think they are ready to go to war with a Bruce-Choo-Ludwick OF. But I think Walt will still sniff around to see if there is a way to get better.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    If Zack Cozart is the most pressing of our concerns, I'd say we're a legitimate World Series contender, no?
    Why wouldn't we be? We were before this trade.


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