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    Re: Reds' 25-man roster for 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/te...2-roster.shtml

    The Reds have control of Paul for 4 more years. The earliest he can be a free agent is 2017.
    Thanks. I thought since the Reds got him as a free agent after his release by the Nats, he would be a free agent upon completion of the season.

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    Re: Reds' 25-man roster for 2013

    Can't wait for 2013. Hopefully a full year of Votto with Choo added to the team? Plus Stubbs is gone. Gonna be a season to remember.

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    Re: Reds' 25-man roster for 2013

    It might be a depressing off-season for Henry Rodriquez, Daniel Corcino and Naftali Soto. They are very talented prospects, but how are they going to find a roster spot with so much talent in front of them?

    It's a great time to be a Reds fan.

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    Re: Reds' 25-man roster for 2013

    I see this as our 2013 Opening Day roster:

    Cueto
    Latos
    Arroyo
    Bailey
    Leake

    Chapman
    Broxton
    Marshall
    Hoover
    Arredondo
    LeCure
    Simon

    Masset on the DL, not ready to begin season
    Ondrusek in AAA, has options

    Choo
    Phillips
    Votto
    Ludwick
    Bruce
    Frazier
    Cozart
    Hanigan

    Mesoraco
    Heisey
    Rolen
    X Paul
    Hannahan

    J Donald in AAA, along with Negron, Burriss, and Phipps

    Cingrani
    Redmond
    Villarreal
    Corcino

    in AAA rotation

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    Re: Reds' 25-man roster for 2013

    You can't necessarily expect everyone to play as well or better than last year. You can't necessarily expect the team to be as relatively healthy (think SP) as it was last year.

    That said, Votto missed a ton of time and had no power after his return. We shouldn't have to deal with that again.
    Hoover/Marshall/Broxton/Chapman is an absurdly good back end to a bullpen, and two of those guys weren't around for the majority of last season.
    Theoretically, you may expect a bit of natural regression to players like Phillips, Ludwick, and Arroyo who are entering the end of their prime or the back end of their career. However, the majority of this team is composed of already talented young players who you would theoretically expect to trend slightly upward.
    Choo over Stubbs is a gigantic improvement.
    The bench appears far better simply due to the loss of Valdez and Cabrera and addition of Hannahan/Donald.
    The minor leagues appear ready to supply young talent again HRod/Corcino in the event of a marquee player going down for extended time.


    I'm not sure how (barring serious injury) this isn't a FAR better team than last year's.
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    Re: Reds' 25-man roster for 2013

    Looks to me like Donald is out of options (correct me if I am wrong, but he spent a lot of time in both the majors and minors the past 3 years). So you probably won't be able to just send him to AAA as was mentioned. He would need to be DFA'd and then clear waivers, which probably won't happen. I am not sure the Reds are willing to hand Donald to another team in order to play a minor leaguer who still has options left. At least not until a fair amount of time in the majors, and even then I doubt it. Don't forget, this is a team that refused to DFA Cairo or Valdez and replace them with a minor leaguer on the 40 man. It's hard to play any worse than those 2 this past year.

    He could be DFA'd if Dusty falls in love with some vet who is invited to Spring Training on a minor league deal, but I don't see the Reds putting a young player on the 25 man if he still has options.

    Oh, and Donald right now is the only backup SS. So no, Rolen would not take his spot.
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    Re: Reds' 25-man roster for 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Swagger View Post
    Ondrusek in AAA, has options
    I find it hard to imagine that Ondrusek would start the year in AAA considering when he is on, he can be one of more dominant relievers. I would guess Leake and Simon Start the year in Louisville (assuming Chapman is starting). Lecure will be the long man. and we could close out games with Hoover, Marshall, Broxton.

    Also, I still feel like Arredondo could/should be replaced by another LOOGY. I just don't trust him consistently to come through when we will need him later in the season in a big situation.
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    Re: Reds' 25-man roster for 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by nheath22 View Post
    Also, I still feel like Arredondo could/should be replaced by another LOOGY. I just don't trust him consistently to come through when we will need him later in the season in a big situation.
    Despite the fact that he's a RHP, Arredondo kind of is a LOOGY. Lefties have hit .190/.290/.291 against him while righties have tallied a .256/.346/.414 line against him over the course of his career. So maybe we don't really need a LOOGY. Maybe Arredondo is that guy and Baker just needs to use him as such.

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    Re: Reds' 25-man roster for 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Zero View Post
    Despite the fact that he's a RHP, Arredondo kind of is a LOOGY. Lefties have hit .190/.290/.291 against him while righties have tallied a .256/.346/.414 line against him over the course of his career. So maybe we don't really need a LOOGY. Maybe Arredondo is that guy and Baker just needs to use him as such.
    Good add and smart consideration.

    I like Arredondo and it isn't so much an issue with his splits or anything... It's probably entirely anecdotal and all on my end, but I just worry about him more in high leverage situations. And I feel like LOOGY's in the truest sense of the word are often brought in for precisely those situations.

    I could live with Arredondo. I wouldn't hate if we tried to acquire a better option for this role, though.


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