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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

    Angels To Sign Josh Hamilton
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [December 13 at 1:39pm CST]
    1:39pm: It's a five-year, $125MM contract, ESPNDallas.com reports.



    Hamilton received and turned down a qualifying offer from the Rangers, which means he'll be linked to draft pick compensation. The Rangers will obtain a compensatory selection for losing Hamilton, and the Angels will have to surrender their top pick (#22 overall) in 2013.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#U8QmHOSm1KMz67wd.99

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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallen5862 View Post
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

    Angels To Sign Josh Hamilton
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [December 13 at 1:39pm CST]
    1:39pm: It's a five-year, $125MM contract, ESPNDallas.com reports.



    Hamilton received and turned down a qualifying offer from the Rangers, which means he'll be linked to draft pick compensation. The Rangers will obtain a compensatory selection for losing Hamilton, and the Angels will have to surrender their top pick (#22 overall) in 2013.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#U8QmHOSm1KMz67wd.99
    Somewhere on RedsZone there is a thread where the size of this contract was debated. I think this blew past most estimates.
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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    Somewhere on RedsZone there is a thread where the size of this contract was debated. I think this blew past most estimates.
    Yep. It's the one where it beleived the "unnamed" source inside the Rangers organization swore they'd not have Hamilton back "even for free."

    That clearly was inaccurate.
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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    Yep. It's the one where it beleived the "unnamed" source inside the Rangers organization swore they'd not have Hamilton back "even for free."

    That clearly was inaccurate.
    I don't know because I haven't been keeping up with it but did the Rangers even try very hard to sign him? I'm just not sure they wanted him back real bad.
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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    Somewhere on RedsZone there is a thread where the size of this contract was debated. I think this blew past most estimates.
    I didn't think anyone would give him that much. I figured 4 years, tops.

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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallen5862 View Post
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

    Angels To Sign Josh Hamilton
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [December 13 at 1:39pm CST]
    1:39pm: It's a five-year, $125MM contract, ESPNDallas.com reports.



    Hamilton received and turned down a qualifying offer from the Rangers, which means he'll be linked to draft pick compensation. The Rangers will obtain a compensatory selection for losing Hamilton, and the Angels will have to surrender their top pick (#22 overall) in 2013.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#U8QmHOSm1KMz67wd.99
    I doubt they can top what they drafted with the Texeira draftpick compensation...

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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Angels are trying to be baseball's Miami Heat.
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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    Somewhere on RedsZone there is a thread where the size of this contract was debated. I think this blew past most estimates.
    Looks like you were closest to the mark.

    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97635


    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    Yep. It's the one where it beleived the "unnamed" source inside the Rangers organization swore they'd not have Hamilton back "even for free."

    That clearly was inaccurate.
    The quote may have been accurate but was probably based on one guy's - or several guys' - opinions and perhaps didn't reflect the decision makers in the organization. These guys are fans too and probably spoke out of frustration with his performance down the stretch.

    That said, they didn't re-sign him, did they?
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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Angels are trying to be baseball's Miami Heat.
    They have a serious case of "Keeping up with the Jone's"

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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Looks like you were closest to the mark.

    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97635




    The quote may have been accurate but was probably based on one guy's - or several guys' - opinions and perhaps didn't reflect the decision makers in the organization. These guys are fans too and probably spoke out of frustration with his performance down the stretch.

    That said, they didn't re-sign him, did they?
    They offered him four years. So regardless of whether they signed him, it was clear they wanted him back or at least were willing to have him back, unlike the hyperbole to the contrary.
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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    They offered him four years. So regardless of whether they signed him, it was clear they wanted him back or at least were willing to have him back, unlike the hyperbole to the contrary.
    True. But they weren't willing to commit to that extra year like the Angels were. They wanted him, just not bad enough.
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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    In a few years, the Angels will regret these signings. These players' best years are behind them, most likely.
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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    In a few years, the Angels will regret these signings. These players' best years are behind them, most likely.
    They won't regret it if they win a World Series.

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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    I know it's not the go-go Aughties anymore where Gary Matthews Jr can get 5 years/50 million, but someone will give Hamilton the deal he's looking for.
    Turns out it we have returned to the Aughties salary levels (Angel Pagan getting 4/40) and I was right about Hamilton.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Angels close to deal with Josh Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    In a few years, the Angels will regret these signings. These players' best years are behind them, most likely.
    That can be said about nearly every free agent that has ever signed. Most guys peak at 27-28. Hardly anyone is a free agent before then.


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