Turn Off Ads?
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 47

Thread: Dickey to Jays almost done

  1. #1
    Moderator RedlegJake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    North Kansas City, Mo
    Posts
    5,742

    Dickey to Jays almost done

    Dickey for D'Arnaud and Gose as principals. Other players likely prospects may be involved in the final deal. Jays prefer to send Arencibia over D'Arnaud. Mets also want a catcher which is why prospects are being talked. Two sources I read say the principal part isa done deal though.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #2
    Flash the leather! _Sir_Charles_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    8,325

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    I like Dickey, but I just don't see him repeating last year. And isn't he on a one year deal? Seems like the Jays are overpaying, but it's hard to say that because he just won the CYA. Just seems like a risky guy going forward. And trading the #1 catching prospect for a question mark is a poor move IMO.
    2014 predictions:
    99-63 WS champs (Cards take 2nd WC, Mil 3rd, Pit 4th, Chi 5th)
    Bruce/Votto neck and neck MVP race (neither takes it)
    Bailey CYA winner
    Hamilton ROY & GG

  4. #3
    Moderator RedlegJake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    North Kansas City, Mo
    Posts
    5,742

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    On a relared note those crazy Cubbies sign 36 y/o Korean reliever Lim Chang-Yong a sidearm Rh with 296 saves in Asian leagues over 18 yrs. He just had shoulder surgery and likely won't pit h until August 2014...

  5. #4
    Moderator RedlegJake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    North Kansas City, Mo
    Posts
    5,742

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    On a relared note those crazy Cubbies sign 36 y/o Korean reliever Lim Chang-Yong a sidearm Rh with 296 saves in Asian leagues over 18 yrs. He just had shoulder surgery and likely won't pit h until August 2014...this is either really stupid or brilliantly shrewd on Epstein's part.

  6. #5
    The Big Dog mth123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    14,761

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    Quote Originally Posted by RedlegJake View Post
    Dickey for D'Arnaud and Gose as principals. Other players likely prospects may be involved in the final deal. Jays prefer to send Arencibia over D'Arnaud. Mets also want a catcher which is why prospects are being talked. Two sources I read say the principal part isa done deal though.
    Good deal for both teams. The Mets really need to add some position players to build with. Right now they have Wright and Ike Davis and that's about it. They need to get some luck and a good first half from Johan Santana so they can deal him for a couple more.

    Dickey should help the Jays. I think they'll rank as the favorite in the AL East now.
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

  7. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    7,638

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    RA Dickey doesn't strike fear to me.
    "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

  8. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Calgary, Alberta, aka, the most prosperous city in the world.
    Posts
    10,613

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    I believe as part of the deal they will sign Dickey to a two year extension for about $26M (what he was willing to sign with the Mets for), so they would have him for 3 years at about $10M per season.

  9. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Bedford, KY
    Posts
    8,992

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    Great financial deal for the Jays, but the cost in prospects is high. I like Gose (if he can fix his K and contact issues) as a leadoff hitter, especially. I also really like D'Arnaud. This, IMO, makes the Mets much better as early as this year.

    A middle of the order including Davis Wright, Ike Davis, and D'Arnaud with Gose and Daniel Murphy is solid, if not spectacular. Add a couple corner OF bats (Duda and Baxter scare no one), and you've got a solid little lineup in front of a middling pitching rotation and a bad bullpen.
    "You can learn little from victory. You can learn everything from defeat."
    -- Christy Matthewson
    "Show me a good loser and I'll show you an idiot."
    -- Leo Durocher

  10. #9
    All work and no play..... Vottomatic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Lebanon
    Posts
    7,067

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    Hmmm.

    So the Blue Jays, Dodgers, and Angels are in overpaying mode, and trying to win it all.

    I'm a Dickey fan. But the fact that his lone start against the Reds last year resulted in him getting beat up by our offense didn't help things. Along with the fact I didn't realize he was 39 years old until Brutus pointed it out.

    Dude will probably pitch 'til he's 45 or so. Good luck to him.

    If the Reds didn't have their best starting pitching staff in my lifelong Reds fan history, I would have been interested.
    "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic.

    "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

  11. #10
    Two-Time Batting Champ Edd Roush's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Loveland, OH
    Posts
    3,045

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    So the Blue Jays, Dodgers, and Angels are in overpaying mode, and trying to win it all.
    I don't agree that the Jays are in overpay mode. I think this Dickey trade is very similar to the Latos deal the Reds made last year. The Jays are trading from redundancies to land a TOR starter.

  12. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    355

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    Quote Originally Posted by Edd Roush View Post
    I don't agree that the Jays are in overpay mode. I think this Dickey trade is very similar to the Latos deal the Reds made last year. The Jays are trading from redundancies to land a TOR starter.
    That's one of the benefits of being based in Toronto-- any starter they acquire instantly becomes a TOR starter

    In all seriousness, though, I agree that the deal makes sense for the Jays. Dickey has been consistently good since he started throwing the knuckler, and if the deal really does come with an extension on the order of 2/26, it seems pretty cost-effective.

  13. #12
    Member Tom Servo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    7,366

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    I actually like the trade for Toronto should it happen. d'Arnaud is a stud but not exactly a sure thing (ie: he's more a Mesoraco than a Posey based on minor league performance). If you are in win-now mode, adding one of last year's Cy Young winners is about as good as it gets.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

  14. #13
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Centerville,OH
    Posts
    671

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    I see the Jays as taking going for it all because this is one of the first times in 10 years where the Yankees and Sox are not clearly the best teams. Toronto knows at some point in the near future everyone else in the AL East will be playing for 3rd again.

  15. #14
    The Big Dog mth123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    14,761

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    Quote Originally Posted by steig View Post
    I see the Jays as taking going for it all because this is one of the first times in 10 years where the Yankees and Sox are not clearly the best teams. Toronto knows at some point in the near future everyone else in the AL East will be playing for 3rd again.
    Agreed completely.
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

  16. #15
    Start the Reactor! *BaseClogger*'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Midland, MI
    Posts
    6,417

    Re: Dickey to Jays almost done

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Hmmm.

    So the Blue Jays, Dodgers, and Angels are in overpaying mode, and trying to win it all.
    Don't forget the Royals!
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25