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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsfaninMT View Post
    So I need help. Who was that pitcher who was lights out in Spring Training several years ago, but when the season rolled around, he couldn't retire a batter. For some reason Del Resario is in my mind, but I am not sure that is correct.

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    Josias Manzanillo

    His nephew, Jerry Gil, became a Red, too.

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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    Jimmy Anderson

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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    Quote Originally Posted by WVPacman View Post
    Come on guys im dissapointed in you. Nobody said Drew Stubbs so thats my pick b/c he absolutely drove me up the wall.He has all the talent in the world and don't know how to use it correctly.
    The OP asked this question.

    I'm not talking about a frustrating player that has loads of talent but isn't living up to it. I'm talking about the players that you wonder why they're up at the major league level to begin with. The kind of player where not only you laugh at how bad they are but you kind of feel sorry for him.

    Stubbs sucked in alot of ways but his sucktitude doesn't qualify for the question above.
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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    The OP asked this question.

    I'm not talking about a frustrating player that has loads of talent but isn't living up to it. I'm talking about the players that you wonder why they're up at the major league level to begin with. The kind of player where not only you laugh at how bad they are but you kind of feel sorry for him.

    Stubbs sucked in alot of ways but his sucktitude doesn't qualify for the question above.
    I agree with you to a centin extent but he year by year should have improved over each year and he did'nt.He got worse imo and thats why he was so frustrating.
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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    I'm gathering from the conversation so far that the true "bad ballplayer" has to have absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever. One-dimensional contributors don't qualify in that sense, since they do have that one thing they can give the team. Exhibit A is Juan Castro -- who doesn't make the list since he he did have one redeeming quality: that famous sure-handedness.

    Anyway, here's a list of names for your consideration (hat tip to this site):

    Wily Mo Pena
    Eric Milton
    Willy Taveras
    Jeff Francoeur
    Bob Uecker
    Billy Beane
    Jose Lind
    John Rocker
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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    Marv Throneberry was the worst player on the worst team of all time (62 Mets).
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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    Oh, and Tommy Lasorda had a 6.48 ERA over three seasons. It doesn't get much worse than that.
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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    Curtis Goodwin
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    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Drew Stubbs. haha just kidding but what about Pete Rose Jr.? Nothing close to his father but they did manage to have a combined 4,258 hits.
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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    This site came up with nice list, IMO. Even some 19th century guys.

    http://jimjividen.blogspot.com/2009/...yers-ever.html

    Plus some guys I remember, like Jesus Alou, Ken Reitz, Craig Paquette, Dan Meyer and Doug Flynn. I don't remember them being that bad, but apparently they were.

    Kevin Jarvis pitched terribly for 10 teams in 12 years, starting with our REDs.
    Lifetime 6.03 ERA. WAR -5.4.
    Dude was bad.
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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    Quote Originally Posted by powersackers View Post
    Kevin Maas
    Kevin Maas posted an OPS+ of 107 over 5 years.

    He was a poor fielder but an above average hitter.

    Surely there were worse players than him in the majors, considering the majority of major league players were wrose hitters than him.

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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    I'm 47 years old. I don't remember anything much before about '72 or '73. What he did with Houston was before my time.

    What he did with the Reds didn't impress me. He was a backup. I don't remember him being much of a hitting threat. But hey.........I was young.
    Menke started for the 72 team. He was past his prime with the Reds but he was a steadying defensive player at 3rd base. He wasn't a bad player at all.
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    Re: Ode to the bad player

    Enzo Hernandez. He was the starting SS for the 1971 Padres and batted leadoff most of the season. He came to bat over 500 times and had 12 RBI and an OBP 0f .295.

    I think Paul Householder and Brad Komminsk were really twins. They were just so much alike it was scary.

    The Reds brought up a relief pitcher a few years ago IIRC was named Booker. He was just terrible. But you could that about a bunch of Reds pitchers in the 2000's.
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