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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    I don't think there's a single deal I'd be genuinely happy about. I've been following his career since I was like 14, so Votto may very well be my last totally irrational sports hero. I hang on every at bat, revel in every opposite field smash, go through momentary heartbreak in the rare instance he's fooled by a changeup. I've seen some great players, but there's just something fascinating about Votto's character that makes me feel like I'm watching something that speaks beyond baseball. I wanna see him hang up the spikes in Red and I don't think Posey, Trout, or anyone else could change that. (Unless of course Trout finally embraces fancy coffees)

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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    I'm not sure how Jocketty could say no to Trout for Votto.
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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    I'd do Profrar, Olt, and Darvish.

    I'd do Strasburg and Harper.

    I'd do Trout and Jared Weaver.

    I don't believe any of those teams would do those deals, however.
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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Teddie Ballgame's frozen head.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    I'm not sure how Jocketty could say no to Trout for Votto.
    This might sound crazy, but even with Trout being cheap for a few more years, I think Votto over the next ten years will be cheaper than Trout, the way salaries are headed. For that reason, I'd rather have Votto.
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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    I'm not sure how Jocketty could say no to Trout for Votto.
    Two reasons, I think. One, Votto is Jeter level for the Reds. Worth more to the franchise than his stats alone. Two, you'd be taking on a good amount of risk there. Lots more certainty with Votto than Trout.

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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Kinda surprised no one would trade him for peanuts just to get rid of his contract. If you don't like the contract (and I believe many don't) it's fair to want to do so.

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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeThierry View Post
    Would Buster Posey be another person besides Trout in which you would think about doing in this trade? Posey would go off like a monster in Great American Ballpark.
    Only if they threw in Matt Cain. Joey is already a GAB monster.

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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Mike Trout would do it for me. Other than him, there is no one I'd consider dealing for Votto straight-up in MLB. But if the Angels come calling and dangling Trout, you have to do it.
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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Great thread.
    Yeah, I think I get it too.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Mike Trout.
    Bryce Harper.
    Evan Longoria.

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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Mike Trout.
    Bryce Harper.
    Evan Longoria.
    Anyone want to take a guess as to how much Trout/Harper will make over the duration of Votto's contract?

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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    This leads me to my next thread I start called "What would it take to get Paul Janish back?"
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    Re: What Would it Take To Get You to Trade Votto?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Anyone want to take a guess as to how much Trout/Harper will make over the duration of Votto's contract?
    Lets say they aren't super twos, so they hit arbitration after 2014, and they are MVP talent every year.

    2013-14 $2M total
    2015 $10M
    2016 $14M
    2017 $19M
    2018 $30M
    2019 $30M
    2020 $35M
    2021 $35M
    2022 $35M
    2023 $40M
    2024 $40M

    That's $290. I could be wrong, but with the TV money, this might actually be low. Lol

    Votto is due $257M over the same time period, if the Reds pick up his 2024 option.
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