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Perhaps all writers who wrote columns praising PED-enhanced players when they really should have known should forfeit their voting rights.
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It is on the whole probable that we continually dream, but that consciousness makes such a noise that we do not hear it. Carl Jung.
These would be good and helpful. I could agree to something like this.
MLB also may want to look at the NFL's selection procedure. It seems more interactive. I'd think an official debate over candidates amongst the voters would be good.
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/selectionprocess.aspx
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All my posts are my opinion - just like yours are. If I forget to state it and you're too dense to see the obvious, look here!
Anyone who abstains for reasons other than there are not good HOF candidates should have their vote taken away. Fay is a marginal writer at best and this little stunt further proves his lack of value to his craft.
Cedric 3/24/08It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
That doesn't make sense. If there aren't any good HOF candidates, that's the reason you mail in a blank ballot with no one selected.
Fay isn't abstaining from voting anyone. He's abstaining for even participating in the vote. And he's not alone as several others are doing the same.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Nobody in particular. I'm saying, the players who are considered "borderline" hall of famers right now, what if they're "borderline" because they were facing juiced competition and weren't able to put up higher numbers? Most times in these discussions, people only look at it from one perspective. They see the juicers and their boosted numbers. What they're not seeing is that the non-juicers during that same time frame have DEFLATED numbers. Ken Griffey Jr for example...odds are quite good that he was facing pitchers who were juicing. If they weren't, his numbers would be better...right? Obviously Jr. isn't a borderline caliber player, but I'm just trying to show my point. Look at some of the pitchers in that era. Mike Mussina, Matt Morris, Hideo Nomo are 3 pitchers who become hall eligible in 2014. They pitched in the steroid era. If they're facing juiced batters, they're more likely to give up more dingers, have higher ERA's and more losses. I'm not pointing fingers, just saying that it cuts both ways.
And like I was saying, you can't vote for JUST Jack Morris. You have to vote for every player (yes or no) on the ballot. If you only vote for Morris, you're voting NO for every OTHER player.
We have overwhelming evidence that the use of steroids had a significant effect on players production. We have no such evidence on the effect of greenies. It doesn't take a rocket or biological scientist to understand the difference between the two. In fact, I'm pretty sure even an MLB player understands the difference with great clarity.
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Absolutely no evidence it helped anyone play baseball better. In fact, based on what we do know about it, it's likely that using amphetamines hurts your overall baseball performance, as it causes one to become shakey and clouds the mind. Also if baseball performance did increase by using amphetamines, and everyone was using them, then why didn't numbers improve during the 70's, like they did in the 90's and 00's?
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