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    Lance Armstrong

    http://tracking.si.com/2013/01/05/la...2_a2&eref=sihp

    Is considering admitting to using banned substances. So much for never having failed a test. That, IMO, is meaningless.
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    Armstrong, 41, reportedly has been in discussions with the United States Anti-Doping Agency and its chief executive, Travis Tygart, to lift the lifetime ban, according to one person briefed on the situation.
    Sounds eerily similar to a situation that an MLB player went through whom Cincinnati fans are familiar with. For Lance's sake, let's hope it turns out better for him

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    He's gonna give an interview to Oprah that will appear on OWN Jan 17th. Reportedly he's going to admit all and ask for forgiveness. That's funny.


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    Adrian Peterson tears his ACL and MCL and then comes back and has one of the great seasons in NFL history. Peyton Manning, at age 36, has cervical fusion and then comes back and has an MVP year. Most of the players in the NFL look
    and play like superman. I think its more than just eating their vegetables. Yet, the media looks the other way, so the fans look the other way.

    But for some reason, even though all of his competition has now been proven guilty of juicing (see Ulrich, Basso, Landis, Hamilton, etc, etc.) so its not like he had an unfair advantage, the media has decided that Armstrong is evil. So the fans have decided to get in line.
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    I don't think Armstrong would have been considered "evil" were it not for his constant denial and antagonistic attitude toward anyone who dared accuse him of something he quite clearly did.

    It's one thing to retire before the cavalry comes, it's another thing to say "Why is everyone out to get me, I'm obviously clean, I've never failed a drug test, they're the problem." When it's all a big lie(that conveniently everyone except Sally Jenkins knows is a lie.)
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    An interesting discussion would be to compare the lying of Rose vs. that of Armstrong.

    Instinctively, I'm more offended by Armstrong's, because of his above-mentioned arrogance. Pete just seemed like a troubled soul, which still doesn't get much sympathy from me.


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    Ah, arrogance. Now i understand. Arrogance doesn't bother me. Using my tax dollars to pay the guy asking the questions about something that happened years ago(see USADA) bothers me. Watching the media ignore what goes on in the NFL while condemning Armstrong bothers me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    An interesting discussion would be to compare the lying of Rose vs. that of Armstrong.

    Instinctively, I'm more offended by Armstrong's, because of his above-mentioned arrogance. Pete just seemed like a troubled soul, which still doesn't get much sympathy from me.
    Well if Armstrong just announces it on Oprah without trying to sell an accompanying book then I'd say advantage Lance

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    Whoa! Just heard a major bomb shell about this interview. I guess Lance reveals that he never had that ball. He imagined it, gave it cancer then imagined it being removed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Shines View Post
    Whoa! Just heard a major bomb shell about this interview. I guess Lance reveals that he never had that ball. He imagined it, gave it cancer then imagined it being removed.


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    Re: Lance Armstrong

    After watching the Oprah interview I think less of Lance Armstrong. No emotion and still not answering all the questions. He is not Idi Amin or Joseph Stalin, but his attitude during that interview made me think of someone who let power get in his brain and is still not willing to tell the truth nor remorseful for the lives of others that he tarnished.

    In other words... I think he is a piece of crap. I know, I know... Livestrong is a great thing. Not sure if I will watch part 2 of the interview tonight. I think last night is all I can take of Lance Armstrong. Just go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966 View Post
    After watching the Oprah interview I think less of Lance Armstrong. No emotion and still not answering all the questions. He is not Idi Amin or Joseph Stalin, but his attitude during that interview made me think of someone who let power get in his brain and is still not willing to tell the truth nor remorseful for the lives of others that he tarnished.

    In other words... I think he is a piece of crap. I know, I know... Livestrong is a great thing. Not sure if I will watch part 2 of the interview tonight. I think last night is all I can take of Lance Armstrong. Just go away.
    I came out of it thinking that he's someone who wants to put this behind him with at least some of his $125mill fortune intact. He wants to get the lawsuits filed, settle out of court, hopefully have a few million left over, move on

    Like you I have very little respect for him but I'm not into hero worship to begin with. I never thought he was anything more than a good bicycler and I don't rate that skill very high in society

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    I came out of it thinking that he's someone who wants to put this behind him with at least some of his $125mill fortune intact. He wants to get the lawsuits filed, settle out of court, hopefully have a few million left over, move on

    Like you I have very little respect for him but I'm not into hero worship to begin with. I never thought he was anything more than a good bicycler and I don't rate that skill very high in society
    A sport with a culture of PEDs use where one of its greatest athletes ever can parlay that into raising millions of dollars for charity is better for society than a version of the sport that brands itself as clean and nobody cares about it except some French people for a few weeks out of the year.
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    I think it's just an indictment of the cycling world in general that allowed a culture to exist where cyclists felt they had to make a choice between winning and not doping. Armstrong may be the epitome of that and sure, his actions to defend himself have been reprehensible, but to me this is about sponsors, officials, coaches, promoters, doctors and everyone else responsible for encouraging athletes to alter their physical chemistry and it's not necessarily fair to put all this blame on one guy. I'm not defending him, in particular, but he didn't create the incentives or the methods to evade testing and he certainly couldn't have doped for so long without a lot of support and willingness by many people to look the other way or to live in denial.
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    Re: Lance Armstrong

    Quote Originally Posted by SunDeck View Post
    I think it's just an indictment of the baseball world in general that allowed a culture to exist where ballplayers felt they had to make a choice between winning and not doping. Bonds may be the epitome of that and sure, his actions to defend himself have been reprehensible, but to me this is about sponsors, officials, coaches, promoters, doctors and everyone else responsible for encouraging athletes to alter their physical chemistry and it's not necessarily fair to put all this blame on one guy. I'm not defending him, in particular, but he didn't create the incentives or the methods to evade testing and he certainly couldn't have doped for so long without a lot of support and willingness by many people to look the other way or to live in denial.
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