"In our sundown perambulations of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing 'base', a certain game of ball. Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms, the game of ball is glorious"
The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.
I'm guessing the Bengals organization has an extremely complicated, closely guarded formula that tells Mikey the absolute least he can spend on his organization without seeing a decrease in the size of the checks he gets to cash.
Brown could legitimately not care less about winning.
I wonder if his daughter has been conditioned to think the same way or if she sees what a buffoon her dad is and has silently resolved to do better when the team passes to her?
"....the two players I liked watching the most were Barry Larkin and Eric Davis. I was suitably entertained by their effortless skill that I didn't need them crashing into walls like a squirrel on a coke binge." - dsmith421
I have it on good authority that Mike Brown thinks 8-8 is the optimal record from an ownership perspective. Helps keep interest but you don't have to go the extra mile. That's what we're dealing with folks. The franchise has reached its ceiling with Mike and Marvin at the helm, and unfortunately I don't think either one is going anywhere anytime soon.
So if we can enjoy playoff appearances and the occasional divisional crown, great. But expecting more you're likely to be very disappointed under this regime.
Dalton - 25 years old
Green - 24 years old
Geno - 24 years old
Burfict - 22 years old
Those are the two most important players on each side of the ball imo. You could make a strong case for Whit who isn't getting any younger, but the point is that our team is incredibly young. To even talk about our ceiling is crazy. I hope we haven't topped out, but there's really no reason to believe we have.
The jury is still very much out on Dalton. The other three you name are obviously undoubtedly the future of the franchise.*
Whitworth wasn't even the best offensive lineman this year. While still above average, he is hardly the best player on the team. Taking Dalton out of the equation (because he is such a wildcard - he could be #3 or off the list entirely by this time next year,) I'd probably rank the assets like this:
1. Geno Atkins
(tie) AJ Green
3. Vontaze Burfict
4. Kevin Zeitler
5. Hippo Smith
6. Andrew Whitworth
7. Leon Hall
8. Carlos Dunlap
9. Michael Johnson
10. Domata Peko
Almost everyone else is replaceable. Possible exception is Reggie Nelson and maybe even Josh Hall (who I'd keep next year over Nugent).
*so long as Burfict doesn't go all Odell Thurman
Last edited by Benihana; 01-07-2013 at 10:43 PM.
I'm afraid this is right. I remember seeing a picture of Dalton straight on through the facemask, and it looked just like Jon Kitna. I'm afraid that's what I see in Dalton. A slightly better version of Jon Kitna.
He's generally smart, (but still prone to huge mind numbing blunders.)
But he's a little bit undersized, not particularly mobile, and doesn't have very good pocket awareness so a lot of balls are going to get batted down at the line of scrimmage.
If he's surrounded by playmakers, he can facilitate well. But he doesn't strike me as someone who's going to make anyone look better than they are.
When people say that I donít know what Iím talking about when it comes to sports or writing, I think: Man, you should see me in the rest of my life.
Dalton...as has been said...is an average QB. More a caretaker....But just better than a Dilfer, less mistake prone than Flacco....but not enough arm and pocket awareness or rollout and passing ability.
The Law Firm and AJ Green carried this offense most of the year.