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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion

    Two guys worth watching with the Bengals

    Mike Gillislee and Denard Robinson. Both could be role specific homerun hitters.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    I've not heard of Gillislee, what's his story?

    RB? WR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Red View Post
    I've not heard of Gillislee, what's his story?

    RB? WR?
    RB from Florida

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2013&genpos=RB

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    Florida RB could be a change of pace type to BJGE.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97g8WTgvrSs
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Both are interesting. Gillislee kinda reminds me of Rudi Johnson.

    Another homerun pick if the Bengals wanted to go that route is WVU's Tavon Austin. He's undersized, but could be used as a RB, WR, or return specialist and would add some explosiveness to the offense. Think Percy Harvin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    My plan:

    1. Extend Michael Johnson
    2. Franchise Andre Smith (I like him playing year-to-year the best, but we can't afford to lose him)
    3. Sign FA WR or RB (Amendola or R.Bush would be my top picks)
    4. Draft LB/SS in Round 1 (Ogletree or Vaccaro would be my top picks)
    5. Draft whichever RB/WR you don't sign in FA at pick 38
    6. Draft whichever LB/SS you don't in the first round at pick 53
    7. Go BPA to add depth all over the field after the second round
    8. Cut Maulauga
    9. Let B.Scott, Leonard, Geathers, Clements, and Newman go, but bring back Pacman and Thomas Howard.

    Also wouldn't mind extending Geno Atkins and/or AJ Green. Would NOT extend Dalton or Gresham- they need to improve and prove themselves next year.
    1 & 2. I agree with this. You can't franchise Johnson because I don't think he is good enough to be paid like a top 5 DL. I don't have a problem paying Andre top 5 money at RT.

    3. Bush is getting a little long in the tooth. I do like what he brings to the table, but how much longer can he be effective at the rate he wants. Amendola can't stay on the field, I would lean towards Mike Wallace if I am going to sign a FA WR.

    4-7. BPA among the LB/S/WR/DB area after the 1st.

    8. The thing with Maualuga is he got better during the season when he cut weight. I don't think he will ever be anything spectacular but if he shows up lighter and can run a little better he may be ok, especially if they can't improve in the draft at LB.

    I like Leonard as a 3rd down back. I don't like Leonard as the backup RB. It is just amazing how other teams don't have a problem plugging in any RB yet the Bengals turn to Leonard and Periman instead of a guy like Boom Herron who is more explosive. But I don't see a spot on the team for Leonard as just a 3rd down back.

    Newman will be back, Clemens might not be a bad insurance plan as a S especially if he comes cheep. I agree with Pacman (thought I would never say that) he was good last year.

    Can't extend Green or Adkins yet, when they can its a must.

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    1 & 2. I agree with this. You can't franchise Johnson because I don't think he is good enough to be paid like a top 5 DL. I don't have a problem paying Andre top 5 money at RT.
    But isn't the franchise tag the average of the top 5 offensive tackles, not right tackles? Andre Smith doesn't deserve to be paid as a top 5 left tackle.

    I would still franchise either Smith or Johnson, and probably Smith, but either way you are going to be paying someone more than they probably would otherwise get for a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Can't extend Green or Adkins yet, when they can its a must.
    Atkins can be extended, and it's a must that he is.

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    But isn't the franchise tag the average of the top 5 offensive tackles, not right tackles? .
    Yes, this is accurate, but the tag for a tackle is $1.3 Million less than a DE. That is a nice amount of money to spend elsewhere on the team.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by top6 View Post
    But isn't the franchise tag the average of the top 5 offensive tackles, not right tackles? Andre Smith doesn't deserve to be paid as a top 5 left tackle.

    I would still franchise either Smith or Johnson, and probably Smith, but either way you are going to be paying someone more than they probably would otherwise get for a year.
    True. I guess I would be more inclined to pay Smith, a player who I think is an above average RT who plays every down, more than Johnson who isn't an every down player.

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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog View Post
    Atkins can be extended, and it's a must that he is.
    Agreed. That move is #1 on my list.
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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog View Post
    Atkins can be extended, and it's a must that he is.
    Keeping him here long-term is a must, but it's not baseball where they would almost have to extend him with one year left on his deal. If they can't sign him to a fair, long-term deal, they can always franchise him next year, and unlike Smith or Johnson he is absolutely worth paying as a top-5 DT (as he is probably a top-1 DT).

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    Quote Originally Posted by top6 View Post
    Keeping him here long-term is a must, but it's not baseball where they would almost have to extend him with one year left on his deal. If they can't sign him to a fair, long-term deal, they can always franchise him next year, and unlike Smith or Johnson he is absolutely worth paying as a top-5 DT (as he is probably a top-1 DT).
    Agreed, but allow me to clarify: keeping in long-term, some how, some way, is a must.

    On another note, I think Michael Johnson had a great year, and I'm certainly interested in keeping him, but the parallels between his 2012 and Robert Geathers's 2006 season (and subsequent huge extension that just ended) make me somewhat wary. I'd hate to grossly overpay someone again based on what they did in their contract year only to have them revert to their pre-contract year form.

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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog View Post
    On another note, I think Michael Johnson had a great year, and I'm certainly interested in keeping him, but the parallels between his 2012 and Robert Geathers's 2006 season (and subsequent huge extension that just ended) make me somewhat wary. I'd hate to grossly overpay someone again based on what they did in their contract year only to have them revert to their pre-contract year form.
    Obviously we want to keep as many of our good players as possible but for the sake of discussion, who's more valuable? Michael Johnson or Carlos Dunlap? I'd argue it's Dunlap. Sure he does take plays off but he's also a playmaker and you can give no higher compliment to any NFL player. When Dunlap makes plays, it's turnovers or drive stoppers.


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