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    Maybe it's a topic for another thread, but I guess I have no idea what you mean by "virtual world generation." Bunch of kids on facebook? Bunch of kids playing Sims?
    From 20 somethings on down, between TV, video gaming, computing, internetting, smart phones, and other various electronic devices, there is a clear dynamic of struggling with reality vs. fantasy with that generation. As the father of 8 kids in that age range and a long time worker with youth as a result, I have a lot of contact with the generation. This is a clear example of the dynamic, and it will continue. You can now be diagnosed as addicted to device(s) by a social worker.
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    Re: Manti Te'o didn't really have a dead girlfriend

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    From 20 somethings on down, between TV, video gaming, computing, internetting, smart phones, and other various electronic devices, there is a clear dynamic of struggling with reality vs. fantasy with that generation. As the father of 8 kids in that age range and a long time worker with youth as a result, I have a lot of contact with the generation. This is a clear example of the dynamic, and it will continue. You can now be diagnosed as addicted to device(s) by a social worker.
    I guess I see no difference between 20 somethings (and down) spending hours playing a game and 40 somethings spending hours watching Homeland, Dexter, and whatever else the show du semaine might be. Likewise, I see younger kids on facebook and maybe twitter, while those a little older might spend their time on a message board like this. More often, the lines are blurred. Plenty of 20+ types playing video games, computing, internetting, and smart phoning. I don't see a "virtual generation;" I just see a world that's changing.
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    Just curious, why do you think ESPN sat on the story for ten days?
    I don't know buddy. Honestly, I did not even realize that ESPN knew and sat on.

    ESPN is a joke now though. They gave up being a true sports network a long time ago, IMO.
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    Re: Manti Te'o didn't really have a dead girlfriend

    Tying this back to the original topic, the so called "virtual generation" is so much more technologically sophisticated than the rest of us that they find it implausible that Te'o could have fallen for a hoax like this. I've seen a ton of people point out how implausible it is that he'd maintain a long distance relationship without regular interaction on a service like Skype. I'd argue that younger folks have a much easier time sifting through much of the b.s. on the internet. They're more masters of the internet than victims of the internet.
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    According to the AP Te'o will give a limited confession that his imaginary girlfriend used imaginary PEDs before her imaginary death of imaginary cancer.


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    Sadly, this is still a better love story than Twilight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeThierry View Post
    Sadly, this is still a better love story than Twilight.
    If only Twilight could have ended with Kristen Stewart not existing.


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    Re: Manti Te'o didn't really have a dead girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfboy View Post
    I guess I see no difference between 20 somethings (and down) spending hours playing a game and 40 somethings spending hours watching Homeland, Dexter, and whatever else the show du semaine might be. Likewise, I see younger kids on facebook and maybe twitter, while those a little older might spend their time on a message board like this. More often, the lines are blurred. Plenty of 20+ types playing video games, computing, internetting, and smart phoning. I don't see a "virtual generation;" I just see a world that's changing.
    Appreciate your input. We are both using anecdotal evidence for a hypothesis, just one man's opinion, mine based on raising from the cradle through the 20s and working in youth programs at church. Maybe I'm off base, but that's my working hypothesis.
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    Re: Manti Te'o didn't really have a dead girlfriend

    This will have an impact on his draft spot, but not nearly as great as his measurables during the next 3 months at combines/pro days.

    Where this will impact him is at the endorsment table. As a well polished, decent looking 4the year star from Notre Dame with a potential 1st round draft grade, he was set to bring in a decent amount of coin in various endorsement deals. I've got to imagine those offers are drying up fairly quickly, who's going to want Teo pimping their product on to a national audience.

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    Honestly, is this really THAT big of a deal? So, he made up a girlfriend, WHOOP DE DOO! Is that really a reason to throw him down the gutter? Did he commit a cardinal sin? Was anyone really negatively affected by this, and if so, why? I can't believe people will think adversely of him just because of this, even if it comes out that he knew all along. There's nothing illegal that he's done. Odd, yes, but, not a huge deal.
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    Re: Manti Te'o didn't really have a dead girlfriend

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    Honestly, is this really THAT big of a deal?
    Yes.

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    I doubt you'd find many willing to argue that its a cardinal sin (though many on this board would automatically say that anything cardinal is indeed a sin ), however its grabbing a ton of attention because its so bizarre. Star athlete making up a girlfriend, then saying that she died of lukiema and claiming it as motivation (or perhaps allowing others to cite it as motivation) to get thru a perfect season and a heisman trophy finalist.

    I'm not sure that anything in sports equates to this. Sure Pete, Lance, and many others have lied, but their lies all were to avoid accusations and/or staying involved w/n their sport. There was no tangible benefit to this story other than the additional attention at gained for Teo.

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    Re: Manti Te'o didn't really have a dead girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by medford View Post
    I doubt you'd find many willing to argue that its a cardinal sin (though many on this board would automatically say that anything cardinal is indeed a sin ), however its grabbing a ton of attention because its so bizarre. Star athlete making up a girlfriend, then saying that she died of lukiema and claiming it as motivation (or perhaps allowing others to cite it as motivation) to get thru a perfect season and a heisman trophy finalist.
    See, without knowing the actual motivations (which we probably never will), how can anyone assume what it's motivation was. The media got caught with their pants down, and now they are trying to say he's the one that pulled them down. He wasn't, even if he knew all along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan View Post
    Honestly, is this really THAT big of a deal? So, he made up a girlfriend, WHOOP DE DOO! Is that really a reason to throw him down the gutter? Did he commit a cardinal sin? Was anyone really negatively affected by this, and if so, why? I can't believe people will think adversely of him just because of this, even if it comes out that he knew all along. There's nothing illegal that he's done. Odd, yes, but, not a huge deal.
    Is he now saying that someone threw him down a gutter? In real life?

    I don't think anybody thinks he should actually be thrown down a gutter but an imaginary gutter? Seems fitting (if telling a few jokes constitutes throwing him down a gutter).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan View Post
    Honestly, is this really THAT big of a deal? So, he made up a girlfriend, WHOOP DE DOO! Is that really a reason to throw him down the gutter? Did he commit a cardinal sin? Was anyone really negatively affected by this, and if so, why? I can't believe people will think adversely of him just because of this, even if it comes out that he knew all along. There's nothing illegal that he's done. Odd, yes, but, not a huge deal.
    He made up a girlfriend and a tragic backstory and emotionally manipulated the whole country, all for personal gain.

    Speaks volumes about him.
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