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    Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

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    Sign him ASAP. You can never have too many Cy Young winners.
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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    The fools.

    Don't they know he is a future Cy Young winner?

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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    In fairness he was DFAed for Jeff Karstens, so it isn't like he was just outright released.

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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    Can we have a 7-man starting rotation? Sign him quick! We'd have all 7 of the guys getting Cy Young votes at the end of the 2013 season!
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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    If he comes back to Cincinnati, does that mean we officially win the Rolen deal?
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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    Quote Originally Posted by cincyinco View Post
    If he comes back to Cincinnati, does that mean we officially win the Rolen deal?
    Nope. Tough to win a trade when you were the only market for the player you traded for and still gave up real talent to get it.

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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Nope. Tough to win a trade when you were the only market for the player you traded for and still gave up real talent to get it.
    Now that's hilarious!
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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Nope. Tough to win a trade when you were the only market for the player you traded for and still gave up real talent to get it.
    Often repeated but rarely challenged.

    What evidence do you have that the Reds were the only destination Rolen could have ended up at in July 2009? Even if you had no other contenders, they had to meet the Jays price. Why didn't they just trade a bag of balls for him? Would that have been too much?

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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Often repeated but rarely challenged.

    What evidence do you have that the Reds were the only destination Rolen could have ended up at in July 2009? Even if you had no other contenders, they had to meet the Jays price. Why didn't they just trade a bag of balls for him? Would that have been too much?
    At the time, everything you heard was that Rolen was forcing his way out and he would only accept a trade to a team in the Midwest. Go look at who was playing third base for all of the teams in the Midwest at the time. The Reds were the only option.

    Obviously you have to trade something for him. But you probably shouldn't be trading a top trading chip plus a proven Major Leaguer for a 34 year old with a bad back on a 1 year and 2 month deal.

    This has all been hashed out a thousand times though. That is how I see it. I am leaving it at that.

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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    At the time, everything you heard was that Rolen was forcing his way out and he would only accept a trade to a team in the Midwest. Go look at who was playing third base for all of the teams in the Midwest at the time. The Reds were the only option.
    The Cards went all year without much at third that year, FWIW.

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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    At the time, everything you heard was that Rolen was forcing his way out and he would only accept a trade to a team in the Midwest. Go look at who was playing third base for all of the teams in the Midwest at the time. The Reds were the only option.

    Obviously you have to trade something for him. But you probably shouldn't be trading a top trading chip plus a proven Major Leaguer for a 34 year old with a bad back on a 1 year and 2 month deal.

    This has all been hashed out a thousand times though. That is how I see it. I am leaving it at that.
    I have two issues with this. One, I'm not sure what EdE had proved to that point besides that he was an awful fielder. Two, I really think that Zach Stewart's value is and was extremely overrated by many on this board.

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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    At the time, everything you heard was that Rolen was forcing his way out and he would only accept a trade to a team in the Midwest. Go look at who was playing third base for all of the teams in the Midwest at the time. The Reds were the only option.

    Obviously you have to trade something for him. But you probably shouldn't be trading a top trading chip plus a proven Major Leaguer for a 34 year old with a bad back on a 1 year and 2 month deal.

    This has all been hashed out a thousand times though. That is how I see it. I am leaving it at that.
    Have you considered that you may have just grossly misvalued Stewart?

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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Often repeated but rarely challenged.

    What evidence do you have that the Reds were the only destination Rolen could have ended up at in July 2009? Even if you had no other contenders, they had to meet the Jays price. Why didn't they just trade a bag of balls for him? Would that have been too much?
    I've seen the challenges because I've read dougdirt's response many, many times. The thing is it is one man's opinion and pure conjecture. The one holding the position can't provide hard evidence for his position anymore than you provide hard evidence against it. So have fun with that
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    Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    I've seen the challenges because I've read dougdirt's response many, many times. The thing is it is one man's opinion and pure conjecture. The one holding the position can't provide hard evidence for his position anymore than you provide hard evidence against it. So have fun with that
    Not really opinion when you tell people to go look at who was playing 3b in the Midwest and that Cincy was the only option. That is being stated as fact.


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