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    Re: 2013 ZiPS Projections

    Anyone else think the two keys to the Red season (assuming health for all) are Ludwick and Frazier? ZiPS doesn't like them nearly enough to suit me.

    Nor, for that matter, do they particularly like Bailey, Chapman (as an innings-limited starter), or Phillips.
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    Re: 2013 ZiPS Projections

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Anyone else think the two keys to the Red season (assuming health for all) are Ludwick and Frazier? ZiPS doesn't like them nearly enough to suit me.

    Nor, for that matter, do they particularly like Bailey, Chapman (as an innings-limited starter), or Phillips.
    I would say those two are the most "volatile" players on the team. I hope Bruce picks his game up even more and makes up for one or both of them possibly struggling.

    I keep worrying about the injury bug with the rotation. Last year was just oh so perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    I would say those two are the most "volatile" players on the team. I hope Bruce picks his game up even more and makes up for one or both of them possibly struggling.

    I keep worrying about the injury bug with the rotation. Last year was just oh so perfect.
    I worry about the wrong guys getting injured. Cincinnati likely can't handle a long-time injury to two or more of the starters, Votto, Phillips, Frazier, or Bruce. Sadly, Cueto's due some arm woes, IMO. Who knows, with Latos, Chapman, and Bailey. Father Time will eventually catch up with Arroyo's mid 80s fastball.

    Cincinnati's on the razor's edge, so to speak. (Much more, IMO, than St. Louis, though less than every other NL Central team.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    I worry about the wrong guys getting injured. Cincinnati likely can't handle a long-time injury to two or more of the starters, Votto, Phillips, Frazier, or Bruce. Sadly, Cueto's due some arm woes, IMO. Who knows, with Latos, Chapman, and Bailey. Father Time will eventually catch up with Arroyo's mid 80s fastball.

    Cincinnati's on the razor's edge, so to speak. (Much more, IMO, than St. Louis, though less than every other NL Central team.)
    I tend to imagine that most teams would be in bad shape if their best players were injured.
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    Re: 2013 ZiPS Projections

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    I tend to imagine that most teams would be in bad shape if their best players were injured.
    The Reds seem to handle being without Votto fine last season.
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    Re: 2013 ZiPS Projections

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    The Reds seem to handle being without Votto fine last season.
    Wouldn't it be kind of unreasonable to expect the Reds to have the same success if they lost Votto again? Certainly some luck was involved in that run they went on while he was out.
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