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02-01-2013, 01:17 PM
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Reds sign C Miguel Olivo
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02-01-2013, 01:18 PM
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The Big Dog
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
Interesting move. Maybe Mes starts out in AAA.
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02-01-2013, 01:19 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
He seems to be an photo negative version of Hanigan. He almost never walks but homers and drives in runs.
I would be very happy if this is for a minor league contract and he is this year's Navarro. http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...ww.typepad.com |
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02-01-2013, 01:22 PM
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Vavasor
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
Lots of power, but an extreme mistake hitter. generally has no idea what is coming. I had him on my fantasy team two years ago.
I generally do NOT like catchers like that. I don't care about the guy's power I want him to recognize pitches so he can also recognize when he's behind the plate. There may not be a direct correlation, but in my head there is.
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02-01-2013, 01:23 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
I really like this move. And it sounds like it's close to being a done deal.
I thought the catching depth was a bit thin. What if Mesoraco still isn't ready to provide quality production at the MLB level? What if Hanigan or Mesoraco get hurt? The next best option would have been Nevin Ashley (who?) or Corky Miller. Getting a proven MLB catcher like Olivo would be big, IMO. And he's got some very-good pop; could really thrive hitting in GABP coming from Seattle's huge park. |
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02-01-2013, 01:24 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
LIke it. It would be a mistake to have Mes riding the bench for another season. Better for him to play regularly in AAA, catching Cingrani, Corcino et al.
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02-01-2013, 01:30 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
Corky won't hit, but he's at least as good at handling pitchers as Hanigan, maybe better. Olivo is fodder. Maybe switching leagues helps him, but i doubt it. Dude hit 19 HR's and 19 doubles in 2011 and STILL had a sub .700 OPS.
fodder.
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02-01-2013, 01:31 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
Mods may want to sticky this for a day or so
Last edited by corkedbat; 02-01-2013 at 01:34 PM. |
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02-01-2013, 01:35 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
Interesting...
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02-01-2013, 01:39 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
I'm guessing Olivo starts the season at AAA. His bat really went south in Seattle but, of course, it's a tough ballpark. His OBP and K/BB numbers are fairly awful, but his power has been good -- except the last two seasons.
I view Olivo as good depth, but I'm guessing Devin M still makes the club and Olivo begins at Louisville. |
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02-01-2013, 10:43 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
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02-01-2013, 01:41 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
Does anyone actually think that Olivo is going to be on the REDS roster and not in Louisville playing platoon with Corky?
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02-01-2013, 02:00 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
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Seriously, (for this year) I'd rather have Mes playing regular at AAA rather than 35 percent of the time in Cincy. |
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02-01-2013, 05:14 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
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Reds management may want Mez catching everyday in Louisville rather than sitting on the bench with the big club. It's pretty clear most of the pitchers prefer Hanigan. And Mez struggled big time last year.
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02-01-2013, 01:47 PM
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Re: Reds to sign C Miguel Olivo?
Perhaps, we're going back to the three catcher circus that worked so well for us back in '06.
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