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MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
![]() Nice feature, theyve done 1stbasemen and catchers (I'll try to get the catchers up soon) was wondering if you guys agree. The Shredder is all the numbers crunched together. Bill James and Sean Casey also had their top 10 guys. Just wondering what you guys think about their list. Or what's your list looking like?
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Re: MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
Might have to use this as my screensaver. Thx!
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Re: MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
Did he give his rationale for placing Pujols and Fielder over Votto?
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Re: MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
I thought his rationale was surprising. One of the factors was RBI total, which was odd coming from Bill James. I think part of it is the fact that he probably thinks Pujols will have a good year this year. He pointed out that Pujols had 50 doubles last year, which I didn't know until I looked at the stats. He had a pretty good year considering how bad he started and probably James thinks Pujols will bounce back. I still wouldn't have Fielder over Votto though.
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Re: MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
Here's the last 3 years' top 10 1B according to Fangraphs WAR (though B-R's WAR basically agrees)
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Rk Name PA wOBA fWAR rWAR 1. Cabrera 2033 .428 20.6 20.3 2. Votto 1842 .425 20.1 18.5 3. Pujols 2021 .388 16.4 17.0 4. Gonzalez 2092 .378 15.2 14.0 5. Fielder 2096 .396 13.5 10.0 6. Teixeira 1920 .360 10.4 10.5 7. Napoli 1359 .377 10.4 8.4 8. Youkilis 1461 .368 9.1 9.5 9. Konerko 1868 .391 8.9 8.4 10. Butler 2030 .368 7.9 7.6 If you were giving me the next 3 years of anybody at 1B, I'd probably go: 1. Votto 2. Gonzalez 3. Fielder 4. Teixeira 5. Pujols After that it gets a lot tougher, but for me it's really those top 5 as reliables and then all sorts of guys who could step up as high as #4 including Goldschmidt, Alonso, Freeman and Hosmer and some mid-late peak, position switch types who could be surprisingly reliable like Craig, Encarnacion, Napoli and Swisher.
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Re: MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
1. Votto
1-A. Pujols
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Re: MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
I have a feeling that Pujols is going to have a monster year with a full year of Trout hitting in front of him and a legit power hitting cleanup guy hitting in back of him. Rolen, Edmonds, and Holliday did very well in the 4 spot behind him but I don't think he's ever had a cleanup hitter behind him with the quality that Hamilton brings to the table. Still, Votto is #1 on my list until someone proves they are better this year.
On a side note, I really think they have Teixeira too high on this list. Obviously he is still a very good defender but I think the days of him being a good hitter are behind him. Allen Craig, for example, had a higher WAR than Tex did while Craig played in less games. I'm surprised that Adam LaRoche wasn't put on this list instead of Teixeira.
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Re: MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
here are the catchers
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Re: MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
James comments on Hannigan, "most under rated player in baseball, great OBP, great arm, 3.04 ERA when catching."
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Re: MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
Bill James always seems to come off as mundane and droll whenever they ask him to elaborate on his picks.
I really don't think he likes Baseball anymore.
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Re: MLBN - Top 10 Right Now
I think he comes off as quirky and doesn't like to be filmed. That said, he still does fine work.
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I don't think he's "sad" about anything. I just think that he's someone who always loved baseball and was never able to physically play it, or play it well. Because of that, I feel that he poured himself into what he IS good at when it comes to baseball and devoted himself to it.
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