RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion  

Go Back   RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion > RedsZone > The Old Red Guard

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-15-2013, 10:50 PM   #1
BCubb2003
Haunted by walks
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Syracuse
Posts: 6,305
Random Thoughts

I always buy a hotdog on Pitchers and Catchers Day, even if I have to shovel the driveway.

These springs are very different from Jim Bowden's cattle calls.

What is the metric for the cut of a player's jib?

And what's a jib, anyway?

Say what you want about Pete Rose, but he certainly had fame.

Cricket is just a bunch of 60-foot curveballs and runners caught in rundowns.

It's hard to keep players from pushing themselves to greater performances through PEDs, but would 100-homer-a-year hitters, three-no-hitters-in-a-row pitchers and 35-25 scores really be baseball?

A player who is said to lead by example probably doesn't.

A general manager needs to know what will happen in the next five years; a manager the next five games, at bats or pitches.

Shaking off the catcher is like representing yourself in court.
BCubb2003 is online now   Reply With Quote
Likes:
bigredmechanism (02-15-2013), Boss-Hog (02-16-2013), camisadelgolf (02-16-2013), GIK (02-16-2013), mdccclxix (02-18-2013), paintmered (02-16-2013), Ravenlord (02-17-2013), Redsfan320 (02-17-2013), WildcatFan (02-18-2013)
Old 02-15-2013, 11:09 PM   #2
mattfeet
Moderator
 
mattfeet's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,382
Re: Random Thoughts

Love #1. Might have to make that a new tradition.
mattfeet is offline   Reply With Quote
Likes:
Tadasimha (02-16-2013)
Old 02-15-2013, 11:29 PM   #3
bigredmechanism
always ask questions
 
bigredmechanism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: new jersey
Posts: 2,030
Re: Random Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by BCubb2003 View Post
Shaking off the catcher is like representing yourself in court.
That is excellent.
bigredmechanism is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2013, 02:11 AM   #4
BoydsOfSummer
So Long Uncle Joe
 
BoydsOfSummer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Hamilton,Ohio
Posts: 3,849
Re: Random Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigredmechanism View Post
That is excellent.

Thinking of that scene in Bull Durham where Nook keeps shaking off Crash always makes me smile.
__________________
0 Value Over Replacement Poster


"Sit over here next to Johnathan (Bench)...sit right here, he's smart."--Sparky Anderson
BoydsOfSummer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2013, 11:10 AM   #5
RedFanAlways1966
For a Level Playing Field
 
RedFanAlways1966's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Oakwood, OH
Posts: 11,248
Re: Random Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by BCubb2003 View Post
Shaking off the catcher is like representing yourself in court.
Made me think of this story (true or not)...

In spring training of 1968, Bench’s first full year, he was catching veteran Gerry Arrigo, whose fastball was growing dim as his career went on. Arrigo, though, was in love with that fastball and insisted on throwing it, ignoring Bench’s signs for breaking pitches.

Finally, after Arrigo shook off another call for a breaking pitch to throw his fastball, when he released the pitch, Bench removed his glove and caught the fastball barehanded.
__________________
Small market fan... always hoping, but never expecting.
RedFanAlways1966 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2013, 01:55 PM   #6
BoydsOfSummer
So Long Uncle Joe
 
BoydsOfSummer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Hamilton,Ohio
Posts: 3,849
Re: Random Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966 View Post
Made me think of this story (true or not)...

In spring training of 1968, Bench’s first full year, he was catching veteran Gerry Arrigo, whose fastball was growing dim as his career went on. Arrigo, though, was in love with that fastball and insisted on throwing it, ignoring Bench’s signs for breaking pitches.

Finally, after Arrigo shook off another call for a breaking pitch to throw his fastball, when he released the pitch, Bench removed his glove and caught the fastball barehanded.
I've heard that story several times but really wondered if it was true. If it is, it might be the coolest thing ever.
__________________
0 Value Over Replacement Poster


"Sit over here next to Johnathan (Bench)...sit right here, he's smart."--Sparky Anderson
BoydsOfSummer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2013, 06:51 PM   #7
mth123
The Big Dog
 
mth123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 12,690
Re: Random Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966 View Post
Made me think of this story (true or not)...

In spring training of 1968, Bench’s first full year, he was catching veteran Gerry Arrigo, whose fastball was growing dim as his career went on. Arrigo, though, was in love with that fastball and insisted on throwing it, ignoring Bench’s signs for breaking pitches.

Finally, after Arrigo shook off another call for a breaking pitch to throw his fastball, when he released the pitch, Bench removed his glove and caught the fastball barehanded.
Don't know if this is true of anyone or not, but my dad told me the same story when I was a kid, but the catcher who removed his glove was Ernie Lombardi and he told me about this before anyone had heard of Johnny Bench.

My guess is this is a baseball version of an urban legend.
__________________
"All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS
mth123 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2013, 03:11 AM   #8
camisadelgolf
Vampire Weekend @Bernie's
 
camisadelgolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 11,311
Re: Random Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
Don't know if this is true of anyone or not, but my dad told me the same story when I was a kid, but the catcher who removed his glove was Ernie Lombardi and he told me about this before anyone had heard of Johnny Bench.

My guess is this is a baseball version of an urban legend.
Johnny Bench said it happened.
http://www.foxsportsohio.com/09/16/1...40&feedID=3725
Quote:
In spring training of 1968, Bench’s first full year, he was catching veteran Gerry Arrigo, whose fastball was growing dim as his career went on. Arrigo, though, was in love with that fastball and insisted on throwing it, ignoring Bench’s signs for breaking pitches.

Finally, after Arrigo shook off another call for a breaking pitch to throw his fastball, when he released the pitch, Bench removed his glove and caught the fastball barehanded.
However, baseball-almanac.com claims it was Jim Maloney in a spring training game.
http://blog.silive.com/sportsspotlig...ball_myth.html
Quote:
That account states the it happened in a Spring Training game in 1968. It says Bench, essentially a rookie catcher with the Reds (26 games in '67), was getting ticked off at then eight-year veteran Jim Maloney for continuously shaking off the breaking balls Bench called for.

It alleges that Bench went to the mound and said "Your fastball's not popping," to which, Maloney hurled the mother of all expletives at Bench.
__________________
Get MLBtraderumors Reds updates on Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reds-R...33794710005587
http://i.imgur.com/1bCKpaH.jpg
camisadelgolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2013, 03:06 AM   #9
BoydsOfSummer
So Long Uncle Joe
 
BoydsOfSummer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Hamilton,Ohio
Posts: 3,849
Re: Random Thoughts

I won't swear to it, but I believe I've heard the tale from Bench himself, either in an interview or in print.
__________________
0 Value Over Replacement Poster


"Sit over here next to Johnathan (Bench)...sit right here, he's smart."--Sparky Anderson
BoydsOfSummer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2013, 05:34 AM   #10
oneupper
Danger is my business!
 
oneupper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Back in Florida
Posts: 7,855
Re: Random Thoughts

I've read that story when I was a kid. Not sure if it was baseball digest or Baseball Stars of 1970 (a book). It was always Arrigo who was mentioned.
__________________
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

http://dalmady.blogspot.com
oneupper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!

RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball

Contact us: Boss | GIK | dabvu2498 | GADawg | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | mattfeet | MBZags | Plus Plus | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25