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RedFanAlways1966 · 03-08-2005, 08:04 AM

Justice is being served in Ohio this morning (hopefully). The killer-rapist-thief's lawyers have caused a slight delay by claiming the killer-rapist-thief has a brain abnormality. Seems hard to believe that the killer-rapist-thief had an abnormality when he had the presence of mind to rip off TVs and a stereo after stabbing & then raping (while she bled to death) the victim. When you see the clock hit 10:00 this morning, feel safer as one less murderer-rapist-thief is one less worry for law-abiding citizens like yourselves. Justice served.

U.S. Supreme Court Declines To Delay Execution of Ohio Prisoner

CINCINNATI - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday night rejected a request that it delay the execution of an Ohio prisoner who claims he has a brain abnormality that may have affected his behavior in 1987 when he raped and murdered a woman.

William H. Smith, 47, is to receive a lethal injection at 10 a.m. Tuesday at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility for the 1987 rape, robbery and murder of Mary Bradford at her Cincinnati apartment.

Justice John Paul Stevens, who handles appeals from Ohio, referred the matter to the full court, and the court denied the request to hear Smith's appeal without issuing further comment, officials with the Supreme Court said Monday night.

Smith's lawyer, Jennifer Kinsley, said Monday night her client is out of appeals and no further actions were planned on his behalf.

"We're done with our appeals," she said.

Smith, 47, claims the abnormality detected during a brain scan after he fainted in prison may have affected his behavior when he stabbed Bradford, raped her as she lay dying and then made three trips to his car to steal her stereo and two television sets. The defense is not challenging Smith's conviction but says the abnormality could have spared him from the death sentence at trial.

Smith's attorneys had argued that an independent analysis of tests done on his brain needed to be done.

Thirteen judges from the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed Monday with a three-judge panel that lifted a stay of execution, saying that two brain tests did not prove Smith has an abnormality.

On Monday, Gov. Bob Taft rejected a request to commute Smith's sentence to life in prison without possibility of parole, citing a lack of evidence to support his brain abnormality claim.

RFS62 · 03-08-2005, 08:06 AM

You'll have to forgive me if I don't celebrate the death of another human being, no matter how depraved.

westofyou · 03-08-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RFS62

You'll have to forgive me if I don't celebrate the death of another human being, no matter how depraved.

True, dancing on a grave should not be one of joy.

macro · 03-08-2005, 11:22 AM

The death penalty is one of the issues I've had the hardest time deciding where I stand. If there's anyone on this board that hasn't seen the movie "Dead Man Walking", then by all means rush out and rent it soon. I found myself on both sides of the fence as I watched that movie, and Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon turned in excellent performances. It's two hours very well spent.

Dom Heffner · 03-08-2005, 11:36 AM

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When you see the clock hit 10:00 this morning, feel safer as one less murderer-rapist-thief is one less worry for law-abiding citizens like yourselves.

Since he was already in custody, I'm not sure how much "safer" we are.

TRF · 03-09-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom Heffner

Since he was already in custody, I'm not sure how much "safer" we are.

Safer really isn't the right term. A question to you or anyone is why should I pay to feed and shelter a man that would likely kill again if let loose? In what way is it productive to allow this animal to live?

Some will dance for joy now that he's gone. Likely those that don't understand what has happened to both killer and victim. Also members of the victim's family. they certainly have the right.

I'd say once he committed those acts, and was found guilty, he lost his right to my tax dollars.

Redsfaithful · 03-09-2005, 01:05 PM

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A question to you or anyone is why should I pay to feed and shelter a man that would likely kill again if let loose? In what way is it productive to allow this animal to live?

It costs more to execute a prisoner than it does to keep him in prison for life.

CbusRed · 03-09-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

It costs more to execute a prisoner than it does to keep him in prison for life.

But we also have an overcrowded prison system.

kbrake · 03-09-2005, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CbusRed

But we also have an overcrowded prison system.

Thats because we put people in jail for things like Marijuana possession. A drug that would be legal in a second if pharmacy companies could make some money off of it. I promise you some of the legal drugs that are approved are worse for you then pot, but thats a whole nother topic.

zombie-a-go-go · 03-09-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

It costs more to execute a prisoner than it does to keep him in prison for life.

Really? Do you have any figures? I'm not calling you out, but if I use this argument somewhere else, I'd like to have something to back it up with.

TeamCasey · 03-09-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

It costs more to execute a prisoner than it does to keep him in prison for life.

Why? Appeals?

Rojo · 03-09-2005, 02:31 PM

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Government can't get much more intrusive than shutting down your organs.

Yes. That was my point. The more authoritarian the government, the more executions.

919191 · 03-09-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

It costs more to execute a prisoner than it does to keep him in prison for life.

I don't have any numbers, and I am not going to research it, but I know 25 years ago this was the fact. All the automatic appeals are expensive, and the death row incarceration is much more cost intensive.

I live in Terre Haute Indiana. When Timothy McVeigh was executed here it was an unbelieveable circus.

Johnny Footstool · 03-08-2005, 12:04 PM

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The killer-rapist-thief's lawyers have caused a slight delay by claiming the killer-rapist-thief has a brain abnormality.

Well, he did have an "abnormality" of some sort, or else he wouldn't have chosen to commit a crime. But that's not an excuse. I have no problem with punishing him for that, and I don't have a problem with him being executed, although I would rather have seen him forced to turn a crank and generate electricity 40 hours a week for the next 60 years.

RedFanAlways1966 · 03-08-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

Well, he did have an "abnormality" of some sort, or else he wouldn't have chosen to commit a crime. But that's not an excuse. I have no problem with punishing him for that, and I don't have a problem with him being executed, although I would rather have seen him forced to turn a crank and generate electricity 40 hours a week for the next 60 years.

Well said. There is no joy over this. I wish there had never been a murder back in 1987 (or rape or theft). However, the laws of this land allow for the death penalty if convicted of certain crimes by a jury of your peers. That happened here. Justce served... and followed. I too am glad that everything was checked to insure that justice was served. Everything was checked (it has been 17-18 years since the crime) and justice was served.

This is not enjoyable. The same as I do not paint abortion-rights proponents as being happy everytime an abortion is performed. Ah... but I shall not digress.

If you kill a human, then you may be killed by the state. I hope someone learned that lesson today.

03-08-2005, 08:04 AM	#1
RedFanAlways1966 For a Level Playing Field Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Oakwood, OH Posts: 11,240	Ohio To Execute Cincinnati Killer Today Justice is being served in Ohio this morning (hopefully). The killer-rapist-thief's lawyers have caused a slight delay by claiming the killer-rapist-thief has a brain abnormality. Seems hard to believe that the killer-rapist-thief had an abnormality when he had the presence of mind to rip off TVs and a stereo after stabbing & then raping (while she bled to death) the victim. When you see the clock hit 10:00 this morning, feel safer as one less murderer-rapist-thief is one less worry for law-abiding citizens like yourselves. Justice served. U.S. Supreme Court Declines To Delay Execution of Ohio Prisoner CINCINNATI - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday night rejected a request that it delay the execution of an Ohio prisoner who claims he has a brain abnormality that may have affected his behavior in 1987 when he raped and murdered a woman. William H. Smith, 47, is to receive a lethal injection at 10 a.m. Tuesday at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility for the 1987 rape, robbery and murder of Mary Bradford at her Cincinnati apartment. Justice John Paul Stevens, who handles appeals from Ohio, referred the matter to the full court, and the court denied the request to hear Smith's appeal without issuing further comment, officials with the Supreme Court said Monday night. Smith's lawyer, Jennifer Kinsley, said Monday night her client is out of appeals and no further actions were planned on his behalf. "We're done with our appeals," she said. Smith, 47, claims the abnormality detected during a brain scan after he fainted in prison may have affected his behavior when he stabbed Bradford, raped her as she lay dying and then made three trips to his car to steal her stereo and two television sets. The defense is not challenging Smith's conviction but says the abnormality could have spared him from the death sentence at trial. Smith's attorneys had argued that an independent analysis of tests done on his brain needed to be done. Thirteen judges from the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed Monday with a three-judge panel that lifted a stay of execution, saying that two brain tests did not prove Smith has an abnormality. On Monday, Gov. Bob Taft rejected a request to commute Smith's sentence to life in prison without possibility of parole, citing a lack of evidence to support his brain abnormality claim. __________________ Small market fan... always hoping, but never expecting.

03-08-2005, 08:06 AM	#2
RFS62 Hey Cubs Fans Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: New York Posts: 16,567	Re: Ohio To Execute Cincinnati Killer Today You'll have to forgive me if I don't celebrate the death of another human being, no matter how depraved. __________________ "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

03-08-2005, 11:22 AM	#4
macro Just The Big Picture Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: The Bluegrass State Posts: 6,150	Re: Ohio To Execute Cincinnati Killer Today The death penalty is one of the issues I've had the hardest time deciding where I stand. If there's anyone on this board that hasn't seen the movie "Dead Man Walking", then by all means rush out and rent it soon. I found myself on both sides of the fence as I watched that movie, and Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon turned in excellent performances. It's two hours very well spent. __________________ *Help stamp out, eliminate, and do away with redundancy.*

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