RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion  

Go Back   RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion > Baseball > The Sun Deck

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-25-2006, 06:34 PM   #1
TeamBoone
"Let's Roll"
 
TeamBoone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 12,821
Corner Infielders (1/25)

01/25/2006 2:58 PM ET
Around the Horn: Corner Infielders
Encarnacion, Aurilia vie for opportunity to throw to Dunn
By Mark Sheldon / MLB.com

CINCINNATI -- Will it be the young guy or the experienced veteran manning the hot corner for the Reds in 2006?

Deciding between Edwin Encarnacion and Rich Aurilia is just one of the decisions manager Jerry Narron will be mulling over during Spring Training.

Encarnacion made his Major League debut last July and played in 69 games after Cincinnati dealt away veteran third baseman Joe Randa. In 211 at-bats, he batted .232 with nine home runs and 31 RBIs.

"Last season was a great experience for him," Narron said. "He did a lot of good things for us. He showed us he can play at the Major League level. He's just got to be consistent."

The Reds feel the 23-year-old Encarnacion has the chance to be a solid offensive player and they like his defensive range. But because his throwing accuracy and mechanics need work, new bench coach and former big league infielder Bucky Dent will be working with him in Spring Training.

"We're very high on Eddie," Reds interim general manager Brad Kullman said. "Hopefully, he'll come to Spring Training and grab that job. It's his to take."

If not, Encarnacion could begin the season in Triple-A Louisville, which would open the door for Aurilia. The 34-year-old returned to the fold as a free agent Jan. 8 after signing a one-year, $1.3 million contract.

"When we bring guys up from the Minor Leagues, I really want them to earn it," Narron said. "I don't want to bring guys out of Spring Training who aren't ready. Having Richie back gives us a lot of options. Eddie's going to have to play well to move in front of him."

Aurilia batted .282 with 14 home runs and 68 RBIs in 114 games last season. He opened the year as the regular shortstop, but ended up spending most of his time at second base and third after the emergence of All-Star Felipe Lopez. Even if the veteran wins the starting third base job, he'll be used around the infield.

"Anytime you have multiple-position guys, it's a big help," Narron said. "Richie did a nice job for us in a lot of different roles. We look for him to do the same thing for us this season."

Utilityman Ryan Freel, who started at five different positions last season, could also see some time at the hot corner.

Whoever plays third will be throwing the ball to a new first baseman this year, as longtime mainstay Sean Casey was dealt to Pittsburgh in December. It helped clear a four-man outfield logjam, since Adam Dunn will be shifted from left field to first base.

There's no doubt as to what Dunn will bring to the position from an offensive standpoint. The lefty hitter batted .247 with 40 home runs and 101 RBIs in 2005, giving him back-to-back 40-homer, 100-RBI campaigns.

Dunn filled in at first base for an injured Casey at the very end of last season, and he started out as a first baseman in high school, but he doesn't have much experience at the position. The 26-year-old decided to skip playing for Team USA in the World Baseball Classic to improve his defensive abilities

"He's got work to do to get back any skills he may have had," said Kullman, also the Reds director of baseball operations. "Just because he played there in high school before he was signed doesn't mean he's Gold Glove caliber. This will be the focus for him in Spring Training."

Backing up at first base will likely be switch-hitting reserve catcher Javier Valentin. Pinch-hitting specialist Jacob Cruz, who was signed in December to a Minor League deal and invited to camp as a non-roster player, will also see some time at the position.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASAp...=.jsp&c_id=cin
__________________
"Enjoy this Reds fans, you are watching a legend grow up before your very eyes" ... DoogMinAmo on Adam Dunn
TeamBoone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2006, 07:01 PM   #2
WVRedsFan
Lime in da Coconut
 
WVRedsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Rainelle, WV
Posts: 7,712
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamBoone
01/25/2006 2:58 PM ET
"When we bring guys up from the Minor Leagues, I really want them to earn it," Narron said. "I don't want to bring guys out of Spring Training who aren't ready. Having Richie back gives us a lot of options. Eddie's going to have to play well to move in front of him."
This is why Jerry Narron should not be the manager in 2006. EdE needs to be in the lineup for 140 games as the third baseman of the future not only for a good evaluation of his worth at the major league level, but also because Aurilia is only a short-timer (and isn't he 36?). I'm sure Womack will also get playing time ahead of Freel or any other infielder. Veteran players are nice to have in a pennant race, but when the old abilities have deteriorated to the point they have on Aurilia and Womack, they should be bench players and not starters. Of course, we all know that and it's been said often.

The problem is that Narron is the field manager. I hope Castelini feels otherwise and steps in, but I'm still not sure if he's going to meddle in that stuff. We'll see.
__________________
www.ris-news.com

"The price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that someday they might force their beliefs on us."
Mario Cuomo

"You only have to bat a thousand in two things; flying and heart transplants. Everything else you can go 4-for-5."
-Beano Cook
WVRedsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2006, 07:31 PM   #3
Heath
This one's for you Edd
 
Heath's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dayton Area
Posts: 8,471
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)



I just can't listen to this drivel from Narron.

Once more for all the newbies -

LET THE KID PLAY - HE'S EITHER GOING TO BE MIKE SCHMIDT OR KELLY PARIS.....

We've got to find out this year. 2006 is the year to find out.
__________________
Some people play baseball. Baseball plays Jay Bruce.
Heath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2006, 07:39 PM   #4
wheels
Dented and Spent
 
wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 6,539
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

It sounds to me like a divergence of opinion betwixt Kullman and Narron.

Kullman's quote: "We're high on Eddie...It's his to take".

At least he's got more representation now than he did when DanO was around.
__________________
"Opening Day.... Pfffft! We get all excited, thinking they're gonna have some kinda great year....Same thing over and over. Disappointment. What time do you want me to come over?" - My Dad. Opening Day 2012.
wheels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2006, 07:48 PM   #5
M2
Posting in Dynarama
 
M2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Boston
Posts: 26,668
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

To move in front of him? TO MOVE IN FRONT OF HIM!
__________________
Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong

I'm witchcrafting everybody.
M2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2006, 08:00 PM   #6
WVRedsFan
Lime in da Coconut
 
WVRedsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Rainelle, WV
Posts: 7,712
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M2
To move in front of him? TO MOVE IN FRONT OF HIM!
So much for the Lindner-O'Brien-Narron brain trust of which Kullman is part. I totally missed that part of the article. Wow. Kullman is officially off my list for GM.
__________________
www.ris-news.com

"The price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that someday they might force their beliefs on us."
Mario Cuomo

"You only have to bat a thousand in two things; flying and heart transplants. Everything else you can go 4-for-5."
-Beano Cook
WVRedsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2006, 08:06 PM   #7
kbrake
Member
 
kbrake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,908
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by WVRedsFan
So much for the Lindner-O'Brien-Narron brain trust of which Kullman is part. I totally missed that part of the article. Wow. Kullman is officially off my list for GM.

All Kullman said was that it was EdE's to take, it was Narron that said he would have to play well to step in front of Rich. I am kind of hoping that they stick with Kullman, although that could just be due to a lack of knowledge towards the other candidates.
kbrake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2006, 01:31 AM   #8
KronoRed
The Lineups stink.
 
KronoRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: West N. Carolina
Posts: 55,343
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

3rd base is Aurilia's, only injury can prevent that.
__________________
Go Gators!
KronoRed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2006, 01:52 AM   #9
Aronchis
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,673
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KronoRed
3rd base is Aurilia's, only injury can prevent that.
Aurilia may not even make the opening day roster.
Aronchis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2006, 02:02 AM   #10
kheidg-
Member
 
kheidg-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,678
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aronchis
Aurilia may not even make the opening day roster.
Aurilia will be on the opening day roster barring an injury. I'd love to see him gone but with the way Narron is talking even a .058 batting average during ST will net Aurilia 3rd base.
kheidg- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2006, 06:27 AM   #11
buckeyenut
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,721
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kheidg-
Aurilia will be on the opening day roster barring an injury. I'd love to see him gone but with the way Narron is talking even a .058 batting average during ST will net Aurilia 3rd base.
I don't have a problem with Aurillia being on the opening day roster. It is Womack I have a problem with being on the roster. That said, I can live with both being there as long as they are used properly. EE has to start at 3B until he proves he cannot handle the job (which means worse than his ML numbers last year). Aurillia is insurance there. Pending a move in the OF, Freel probably should be starting at 2B, although I could live with Aurillia starting there and Freel playing 5 days at week at all positions in a supersub role. The key for me is that Aurillia needs to be in the lineup lower than the following players. Jr, Dunn, Freel, Pena, Kearns, Lopez. So he should probably never bat higher than 6 or 7. I can live with him hitting above LaRue and EE, but I think both of those guys ought to go higher too.

If in the lineup, Aurillia ought to bat eighth, maybe seventh once in a while. If Womack is in the lineup, he should be batting eighth for sure. And the two should rarely if ever play together, pending injuries. My real fear is that we'll see a lineup with Womack leading off and Aurillia batting second, without any injuries keeping people out. That is the Narron I fear.
buckeyenut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2006, 06:28 AM   #12
zombie-a-go-go
Mod Law
 
zombie-a-go-go's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Miskatonic University
Posts: 4,302
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KronoRed
3rd base is Aurilia's, only injury can prevent that.
Maybe we can hope that he beats out Felipe for SS again?
__________________
"It's easier to give up. I'm not a very vocal player. I lead by example. I take the attitude that I've got to go out and do it. Because of who I am, I've got to give everything I've got to come back."
-Ken Griffey Jr.
zombie-a-go-go is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2006, 06:35 AM   #13
Jpup
Member
 
Jpup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Southern KY
Posts: 6,967
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

Can we start the "Fire Jerry Narron" threads now?
__________________
"My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton
Jpup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2006, 06:37 AM   #14
KronoRed
The Lineups stink.
 
KronoRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: West N. Carolina
Posts: 55,343
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpup
Can we start the "Fire Jerry Narron" threads now?
I think we had a few last year
__________________
Go Gators!
KronoRed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2006, 06:38 AM   #15
zombie-a-go-go
Mod Law
 
zombie-a-go-go's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Miskatonic University
Posts: 4,302
Re: Corner Infielders (1/25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KronoRed
I think we had a few last year
Let's wait until Opening Day. Until then, this is just so much bloviating.
__________________
"It's easier to give up. I'm not a very vocal player. I lead by example. I take the attitude that I've got to go out and do it. Because of who I am, I've got to give everything I've got to come back."
-Ken Griffey Jr.
zombie-a-go-go is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!

RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball

Contact us: Boss | GIK | dabvu2498 | GADawg | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | mattfeet | MBZags | Plus Plus | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25