Your call

[Red Leader]

There have been a number of bad calls in the history of sport which have stood up and were not overturned, even if it was fairly obvious that the refs/umpires got the call wrong. I figured this thread would spark good conversation about such a topic.

Two questions.


If you could change any one call in Red's baseball history, which call would it be?

Also, in all of sports, if you could correct an incorrect call that stood up in the history of sports, what would it be?

[Red Leader]

iI'm still trying to think of a Red's call to overturn.

Here is my all of sports call:

1979: Charles White's fumble

USC led Michigan 7-3 in the Rose Bowl when Charles White dove through the line from the three-yard line. White lost the ball and it was recovered by Michigan. But the line judge determined White had crossed the goal line. USC won 17-10 and shared the national championship.

I had just turned 7 years old and was really starting to enjoy watching football. I had become a UM fan that year because my Dad always rooted for OSU and it made it more fun to watch the game and root against "his" team in the big game. The loss by UM in the Rose Bowl should have never happened.

[Chip R]

Originally Posted by Red Leader

There have been a number of bad calls in the history of sport which have stood up and were not overturned, even if it was fairly obvious that the refs/umpires got the call wrong. I figured this thread would spark good conversation about such a topic.

Two questions.


If you could change any one call in Red's baseball history, which call would it be?

70 World Series. Need I say more?

[RFS62]

Originally Posted by Chip R

70 World Series. Need I say more?

.

[Hap]

Last night's offensive pass interference call. Need I say more?

And speaking of Frank Pulli, he was the one who ruled that the Jeffrey Mayer incident was a home run. I was living in NoVa at the time and I heard the call by Jon Miller on the Orioles network. Jon Miller got the call right from 400 feet away as it was happening in live action. Frank Pulli was about ten feet away and he couldn't call it right. He was afraid of what the Yankee Stadium crowd would do if he had called fan interference; not to mention that the 12-year-old could have been removed from the stadium and then prosecuted.

And how about Colorado's fifth-down TD run?

[macro]

Chip's is a good nominee. Let me also add Frank Pulli's blown call on Dave Collins' catch in Game 2 of the 1979 NLCS. Pulli said he trapped it, which he didn't. That allowed a run to score that shouldn't have, and the Pirates ended up winning that game something like 2-1. (Didn't it go extra innings?) With a win in that game, the series is tied 1-1 and the Reds have a shot.

[savafan]

The Eric Davis first he's safe, nope, now he's out at home call sticks in my memory.

[cumberlandreds]

The 1970 WS call by Ken Burkhart to call out Bernie Carbo at the plate.

The out call by Denkinger in the 1985 WS that kept the Royals alive and eventually helped them win the WS. I was rooting for the Royals but that was just a horrid call and he should have been fired after that.

[M2]

My memory's getting hazy. Which game of the '79 NLCS was it where the umps ruled Dave Collins trapped a ball he clearly caught. All I really recall of the play is my disgust. In fact, losing to the Pirates left me thoroughly disgusted. Until that point in time I took it for granted that the Reds owned those guys.

[westofyou]

Which game of the '79 NLCS was it where the umps ruled Dave Collins trapped a ball he clearly caught.

The one I was at.

Game One played on Tuesday, October 2, 1979

[M2]

Originally Posted by westofyou

The one I was at.

Game One played on Tuesday, October 2, 1979

It's coming back to me now. Dave Parker in the 11th, right? The Reds came unglued after that.

[westofyou]

Originally Posted by M2

It's coming back to me now. Dave Parker in the 11th, right? The Reds came unglued after that.

PIRATES 11TH: Foli singled; ALEXANDER RAN FOR FOLI; Parker
singled [Alexander to second]; Stargell homered [Alexander
scored, Parker scored]; Milner grounded out (second to first);
Madlock singled; TOMLIN REPLACED HUME (PITCHING); Madlock stole
second; Ott struck out; Garner was walked intentionally; Jackson
made an out to pitcher; 3 R, 4 H, 0 E, 2 LOB. Pirates 5, Reds 2.

REDS 11TH: B. ROBINSON REPLACED ALEXANDER (PLAYING LF); STENNETT
REPLACED MILNER (PLAYING 2B); GARNER CHANGED POSITIONS (PLAYING
SS); Collins grounded out (second to first); Morgan made an out
to right; Concepcion singled; Foster walked [Concepcion to
second]; D. ROBINSON REPLACED JACKSON (PITCHING); Bench walked
[Concepcion to third, Foster to second]; Knight struck out
(catcher to first); 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 3 LOB. Pirates 5, Reds 2.

[Chip R]

For some reason I don't have much recall of the 79 NLCS. They must have been on during the day. I do have some hazy recollections of one of the games that was on after I got home from school but that's about it. I also have no recollection of the 76 series although I may have been grounded from watching TV then.

[macro]

I think all three games of the 1979 NLCS were on during the day.

[paulrichjr]

Originally Posted by macro

I think all three games of the 1979 NLCS were on during the day.

I'm not 100% sure but I believe the game that is in question was on at night. In fact I believe the first two games were on at night but the 3rd game was on a Sunday and was on during the day. I remember because I refused to watch it because I knew the Reds were done for so I went outside and played instead...