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LincolnparkRed · 04-07-2006, 10:26 AM

I was getting the feeling that our hitters seem to be more patient this year and decided to look at some team hitting stats. The Reds are:

#1 in BB & OPB
#11 in SO
#4 in SLG

So obviously it is a small sample size but it seems that all of our hitters are taking a patient approach seeing pitches and definitely working the opposing starters into early high pitch counts. Can this be credited to Chambliss or is just a matter of facing two wild cubs starters and one young pirate.

traderumor · 04-07-2006, 10:38 AM

Simply the MO of this offense. This group wears pitchers out.

top6 · 04-07-2006, 11:02 AM

3 games doesn't even rise to the level of a small sample size. It's basically nothing, statistically.

traderumor · 04-07-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by top6

3 games doesn't even rise to the level of a small sample size. It's basically nothing, statistically.

True, but the core of the offense is essentially the same as in the two previous years, with Hatteberg adding to the deep count workers in the lineup. I'd say that's a big enough sample size to say what you see is what you get.

RedsManRick · 04-07-2006, 11:10 AM

Statistically significant? Heck no. Encouraging? Definintely. While I wouldn't try to project anything, 20 walks to 21 strikeouts is a good sign if nothing else.

Space Cowboy · 04-07-2006, 11:27 AM

more insignificant stats through 3 games:

reds pitchers 20 strikeouts to 7 walks

GridironGrace · 04-07-2006, 11:28 AM

Well.

Looking good so far.

Do this again after 10 games

definitly something to watch.

Roy Tucker · 04-07-2006, 11:34 AM

Small sample size bah!!!!

Reds all the way in 2006!!! Party in October!!! Wooooo!!!!!

(someone remind me to cut down on my caffeine)

BoCcc2832 · 04-07-2006, 12:21 PM

Even though it is 3 games old, this is definitely an encouraging site to see with our Reds boys. I was at the game yesterday and the typical batters (Dunn and Kearns) struck out. Dunn has 4 and Encarnacion have 4, but that is only because Edwin is struggling right now and it's typical for Dunn to have that many K's. Can anyone find out how many pitches our batters take on average?

TeamBoone · 04-07-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BoCcc2832

Even though it is 3 games old, this is definitely an encouraging site to see with our Reds boys. I was at the game yesterday and the typical batters (Dunn and Kearns) struck out. Dunn has 4 and Encarnacion have 4, but that is only because Edwin is struggling right now and it's typical for Dunn to have that many K's. Can anyone find out how many pitches our batters take on average?

Yeah, but did you see where some of the pitches were located that were called strikes on Dunn?

Same old, same old. Umpires can't seem to get it that the bottom of his strike zone is much higher than most other batters.

Kearns had one really low ball called a strike as well. But it doesn't happen to him as much as it does to Adam.

Neo · 04-07-2006, 12:32 PM

If one is looking at three games as a sample size... watch out for those Tigers..

Red Leader · 04-07-2006, 12:39 PM

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Cincinnati Reds Team Batting Statistics 
 AB P/PA 
Ken Griffey Jr. 12  3.47
Felipe Lopez 12 3.94 
Adam Dunn 12 3.29 
Austin Kearns 12 4.77 
Rich Aurilia 10 3.00 
Edwin Encarnacion 9 3.50 
Javier Valentin 8 2.67 
Tony Womack 7 4.56 
Scott Hatteberg 6 3.70 
Ryan Freel 3 5.83 
David Ross 3 3.25 
Aaron Harang 2 4.00 
Chris Denorfia 2 5.50 
Bronson Arroyo 1 3.00 
Brandon Claussen 1 3.00

Red Leader · 04-07-2006, 12:52 PM

With the number above, I'd have to say that I'm impressed with Womack's 4.56 pitches per plate appearance, Kearn's 4.77, and Lopez's 3.94. The other guys I expected to see a lot of pitches. Dunn's figure is a little lower than I expected.

flyer85 · 04-07-2006, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Leader

With the number above, I'd have to say that I'm impressed with Womack's 4.56 pitches per plate appearance, Kearn's 4.77, and Lopez's 3.94. The other guys I expected to see a lot of pitches. Dunn's figure is a little lower than I expected.

He has seemed to be a more aggressive when given a first pitch fastball ... fine by me. I bet Grabow wishes he had taken that pitch last night.

Red Leader · 04-07-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by flyer85

He has seemed to be a more aggressive when given a first pitch fastball ... fine by me. I bet Grabow wishes he had taken that pitch last night.

Yeah, I'm fine with it, too. Actually, I think as the season goes on, and pitchers get a little smarter and better able to locate their stuff, I would expect that number to go up because Adam Dunn isn't going to see many 1st pitch fastballs, or at least any around the plate.

04-07-2006, 10:38 AM	#2
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,743	Re: Knowing the season is only 3 games old Simply the MO of this offense. This group wears pitchers out. __________________ Can't win with 'em Can't win without 'em

04-07-2006, 11:02 AM	#3
top6 Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: cincinnati Posts: 1,638	Re: Knowing the season is only 3 games old 3 games doesn't even rise to the level of a small sample size. It's basically nothing, statistically.

04-07-2006, 11:10 AM	#5
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,987	Re: Knowing the season is only 3 games old Statistically significant? Heck no. Encouraging? Definintely. While I wouldn't try to project anything, 20 walks to 21 strikeouts is a good sign if nothing else. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

04-07-2006, 11:27 AM	#6
Space Cowboy Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Independence, KY Posts: 74	Re: Knowing the season is only 3 games old more insignificant stats through 3 games: reds pitchers 20 strikeouts to 7 walks __________________ I Win!

04-07-2006, 11:28 AM	#7
GridironGrace Who Dey!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Monticello, Kentucky Posts: 2,396	Re: Knowing the season is only 3 games old Well. Looking good so far. Do this again after 10 games definitly something to watch. __________________ Proud Member of "The Bengals Lair" http://www.uranking.com/vote.asp?member=45269 http://www.powerhouserock.net Somebody's gotta win and somebody's gotta lose and I believe in letting the other guy lose. - Pete Rose

04-07-2006, 10:26 AM	#1
LincolnparkRed Designated Threadkiller Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,789	Knowing the season is only 3 games old I was getting the feeling that our hitters seem to be more patient this year and decided to look at some team hitting stats. The Reds are: #1 in BB & OPB #11 in SO #4 in SLG So obviously it is a small sample size but it seems that all of our hitters are taking a patient approach seeing pitches and definitely working the opposing starters into early high pitch counts. Can this be credited to Chambliss or is just a matter of facing two wild cubs starters and one young pirate. __________________ Climbing down from the bridge, but keeping the torch lit until Dusty's fate is settled

04-07-2006, 11:34 AM	#8
Roy Tucker Be the ball Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mason, OH Posts: 11,187	Re: Knowing the season is only 3 games old Small sample size bah!!!! Reds all the way in 2006!!! Party in October!!! Wooooo!!!!! (someone remind me to cut down on my caffeine) __________________ The motel of lost companions Waits with heated pool and bar

04-07-2006, 12:21 PM	#9
BoCcc2832 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hilliard, OH Posts: 533	Re: Knowing the season is only 3 games old Even though it is 3 games old, this is definitely an encouraging site to see with our Reds boys. I was at the game yesterday and the typical batters (Dunn and Kearns) struck out. Dunn has 4 and Encarnacion have 4, but that is only because Edwin is struggling right now and it's typical for Dunn to have that many K's. Can anyone find out how many pitches our batters take on average? __________________ Reds record while I was in attendance in 2006: 7-2 Reds record while I was in attendance in 2007: 2-0 Reds record while I'm in attendance in 2008: 0-1 "I wish the stadium was filled up every night." - Bronson Arroyo, Cincinnati Enquirer - February 9, 2007

04-07-2006, 12:32 PM	#11
Neo Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Findlay,Ohio Posts: 1,808	Re: Knowing the season is only 3 games old If one is looking at three games as a sample size... watch out for those Tigers.. __________________ "As long as I have fun playing, the stats will take care of themselves." - Ken Griffey Jr.

04-07-2006, 12:39 PM	#12
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Re: Knowing the season is only 3 games old Code: Cincinnati Reds Team Batting Statistics AB P/PA Ken Griffey Jr. 12 3.47 Felipe Lopez 12 3.94 Adam Dunn 12 3.29 Austin Kearns 12 4.77 Rich Aurilia 10 3.00 Edwin Encarnacion 9 3.50 Javier Valentin 8 2.67 Tony Womack 7 4.56 Scott Hatteberg 6 3.70 Ryan Freel 3 5.83 David Ross 3 3.25 Aaron Harang 2 4.00 Chris Denorfia 2 5.50 Bronson Arroyo 1 3.00 Brandon Claussen 1 3.00 __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy. Last edited by Red Leader; 04-07-2006 at 12:43 PM.

04-07-2006, 12:52 PM	#13
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Re: Knowing the season is only 3 games old With the number above, I'd have to say that I'm impressed with Womack's 4.56 pitches per plate appearance, Kearn's 4.77, and Lopez's 3.94. The other guys I expected to see a lot of pitches. Dunn's figure is a little lower than I expected. __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy.

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