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reds44 · 04-09-2006, 10:56 PM

This divison sucks. Period. The Cardinals have a taken 3 steps back this offseason, the Pirates suck, the Astros are ok at best, and the Cubs and Brewers are both decent. Our offense is great, and I honestly think our rotation will be decent (I thought that before the year, this week had nothing do with this). If we can find a way to get a decent bullpen, we will have a legit shot to contend in the NL Central.

I hope Krivs makes a move to get us some bullpen arms.
Who is with me!?

RedsMan3203 · 04-09-2006, 11:03 PM

The way I look at it is this.

Last year... We had a great Offense... Again this year... Even with Casey and Pena gone.. We are still a great Offense. We have no worries on that side of the plate.

But -- The biggest worry is really pitching.

Will Harrang and Classusen take another step or two foward. Was last year a fluke for Milton and he will turn around and get us 15 win this year?

Really, the roles have flopped. Last year our starters were so bad... (harrang and classuen excluded) It didnt matter... What happend... When it happend... Our starters were gone early.. and the pen came in and kept us around in the game...

This year so far.. Our starters have been good, and our pen has sucked. Maybe they aren't used to being in a tight game? Who knows.

If Harrang, Classuen, Milton, Arroyo, Williams = 70 wins (meaning, in all combied starts they win 70 games) Can we find another 15 wins else where?

Thats 14 wins for each person... Can they do it?

KronoRed · 04-09-2006, 11:07 PM

We have few trading pieces, I don't want to start dealing them for bullpen help when the rotation still needs work, it's not just contending it's winning the whole thing and I have a hard time seeing our current starters leading us to a world series win.

cincy09 · 04-09-2006, 11:11 PM

Even with all the questions, it would sure be fun to look forward to baseball games past July, 31. I long for the days when the trade deadline means something besides salary dumping.

Falls City Beer · 04-09-2006, 11:14 PM

It's tough to say exactly what would put this team into contention, but as long as pitching talent, real honest to god pitching talent, comes in return, I don't care if it's bullpen or starting rotation. And outside of Dunn, I don't care who it takes to acquire it. I won't be too angry if the Reds don't contend this year, but they sure as hell better be ready by next season.

WMR · 04-09-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

It's tough to say exactly what would put this team into contention, but as long as pitching talent, real honest to god pitching talent, comes in return, I don't care if it's bullpen or starting rotation. And outside of Dunn, I don't care who it takes to acquire it. I won't be too angry if the Reds don't contend this year, but they sure as hell better be ready by next season.

Talk about your quandaries...

Falls City Beer · 04-09-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS

Talk about your quandries...

Quandaries? or quantities?

StillFunkyB · 04-11-2006, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS

Talk about your quandaries...

WHOA!

Reds Nd2 · 04-09-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

I won't be too angry if the Reds don't contend this year, but they sure as hell better be ready by next season.

They won't be. Maybe '08. Maybe.

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

True. Those babies look like they've been plucked from orbit.

I think one of those babies hit the earth and killed the dinasours.

KearnsyEars · 04-10-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

It's tough to say exactly what would put this team into contention, but as long as pitching talent, real honest to god pitching talent, comes in return, I don't care if it's bullpen or starting rotation. And outside of Dunn, I don't care who it takes to acquire it. I won't be too angry if the Reds don't contend this year, but they sure as hell better be ready by next season.

I agree keep Dunn at all costs.

NatiRedGals · 04-09-2006, 11:21 PM

I argee we can contend bring on the bullpen members

Our starters will carry themselves !!

WMR · 04-09-2006, 11:27 PM

Well... you gotta be willing to sacrifice some of your most prized assets if you're serious about accomplishing your goals.

Falls City Beer · 04-09-2006, 11:30 PM

True. Those babies look like they've been plucked from orbit.

WMR · 04-09-2006, 11:31 PM

Adam and Dunn?

.OPS + .OBP?

lmao.

Reds Nd2 · 04-09-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by reds44

I hope Krivs makes a move to get us some bullpen arms.
Who is with me!?

If Krivsky ignores this teams real problems trying to bolster the bullpen, he should be fired immediately.

04-09-2006, 10:56 PM	#1
reds44 #TheReturn Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 23,660	With a move or two, we can contend This divison sucks. Period. The Cardinals have a taken 3 steps back this offseason, the Pirates suck, the Astros are ok at best, and the Cubs and Brewers are both decent. Our offense is great, and I honestly think our rotation will be decent (I thought that before the year, this week had nothing do with this). If we can find a way to get a decent bullpen, we will have a legit shot to contend in the NL Central. I hope Krivs makes a move to get us some bullpen arms. Who is with me!?

04-09-2006, 11:03 PM	#2
RedsMan3203 Reds Slacker '07 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,783	Re: With a move or two, we can contend The way I look at it is this. Last year... We had a great Offense... Again this year... Even with Casey and Pena gone.. We are still a great Offense. We have no worries on that side of the plate. But -- The biggest worry is really pitching. Will Harrang and Classusen take another step or two foward. Was last year a fluke for Milton and he will turn around and get us 15 win this year? Really, the roles have flopped. Last year our starters were so bad... (harrang and classuen excluded) It didnt matter... What happend... When it happend... Our starters were gone early.. and the pen came in and kept us around in the game... This year so far.. Our starters have been good, and our pen has sucked. Maybe they aren't used to being in a tight game? Who knows. If Harrang, Classuen, Milton, Arroyo, Williams = 70 wins (meaning, in all combied starts they win 70 games) Can we find another 15 wins else where? Thats 14 wins for each person... Can they do it? __________________ You think you got what it takes to play a real fantasy game? Join me at Jockstocks. You can play Baseball, Basketball, Football, Golf, Nascar and even Hockey! Jockstocks Homepage Do you have your shirt on? - Adam Dunn to Marty on the Bananna Phone.

04-09-2006, 11:07 PM	#3
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,342	Re: With a move or two, we can contend We have few trading pieces, I don't want to start dealing them for bullpen help when the rotation still needs work, it's not just contending it's winning the whole thing and I have a hard time seeing our current starters leading us to a world series win. __________________ Go Gators!

04-09-2006, 11:11 PM	#4
cincy09 Bada Bing Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zanesvegas, OH Posts: 1,484	Re: With a move or two, we can contend Even with all the questions, it would sure be fun to look forward to baseball games past July, 31. I long for the days when the trade deadline means something besides salary dumping. __________________ 2006 Redszone Prospect Draft - Johnny Cueto 2007 Redszone Prospect Draft - Pedro Viola, Alexis Oliveras 2007 Redszone Mock Draft - 1st (27) Michael Burgess, Supp. (60) Wes Roemer, 2nd (92) Barry Enright, 3rd (122) Jonathan Bachanov 2009 Redszone Mock Draft - 1st (9) Shelby Miller, 2nd (58) Marc Krauss, 3rd (89) Daniel Fields

04-09-2006, 11:14 PM	#5
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: With a move or two, we can contend It's tough to say exactly what would put this team into contention, but as long as pitching talent, real honest to god pitching talent, comes in return, I don't care if it's bullpen or starting rotation. And outside of Dunn, I don't care who it takes to acquire it. I won't be too angry if the Reds don't contend this year, but they sure as hell better be ready by next season.

04-09-2006, 11:21 PM	#11
NatiRedGals Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fairfield Posts: 1,397	Re: With a move or two, we can contend I argee we can contend bring on the bullpen members Our starters will carry themselves !! __________________ <a href=http://www.signaturebar.com/><img src=http://www.signaturebar.com/uploads/images/51550.gif border=0></a>

04-09-2006, 11:30 PM	#13
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: With a move or two, we can contend True. Those babies look like they've been plucked from orbit.

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