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Red Leader · 05-25-2006, 03:34 PM

Ok,
I think I'm close to making a trade to helping my roster situation.

I give:
OF Brad Hawpe
1B Richie Sexson
SP Kelvim Escobar
RP Chris Ray

I get:
OF Carl Crawford
SP Jeremy Bonderman

What do you think? I need to clear two spots on my roster for when Rich Harden and John Patterson return. I could pick up SP Matt Cain and another player for the two open spots on my roster. I could use the SB's. I already have 3 other good closers (Papelbon, Gordon, and B.J. Ryan) so I don't need Ray that much. Escobar and Bonderman are pretty even, I think, but I'd take Bonderman by a nose. What do you think, good deal or not? Assuming Escobar and Bonderman are pretty close, that's Sexson, Hawpe and Ray for Crawford---that's a lot to give up, isn't it? Should I take Ray out and just make it Sexson, Hawpe and Escobar for Crawford and Bonderman?

NJReds · 05-25-2006, 03:52 PM

That's an awful lot to give up for Crawford.

His 5-for-5 night w/5 runs scored and 4 SB's last night really boosted his statline.

Red Leader · 05-25-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NJReds

That's an awful lot to give up for Crawford.

His 5-for-5 night w/5 runs scored and 4 SB's last night really boosted his statline.

Would you give up Sexson and Hawpe for Crawford, or Johnny Damon?

edabbs44 · 05-25-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Leader

Would you give up Sexson and Hawpe for Crawford, or Johnny Damon?

I would do that trade for Crawford in a second. Sexson is headed towards a colossal bust season. Hawpe has been great, but if you need SBs and runs there isn't many better than CC. I wouldn't do it for Damon...the foot issue looks like it's going to be a problem. That one looks better to me as Ray has been a nice surprise.
But if Ray is expendable, I would spin him off for someone else. You should be able to pick up a nice SP for him.

IowaRed · 05-25-2006, 04:35 PM

I think the 4 for 2 trade is too much to give up. If you broke those into 2 for 1's-Hawpe and Sexson for Crawford and then Escobar and Ray for an SP, I would think you can do better than Bonderman. If the best you can get is Bonderman, I would hang on to Escobar (I know your goal is to open up the 2spots for your DL players)

Red Leader · 05-25-2006, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaRed

I think the 4 for 2 trade is too much to give up. If you broke those into 2 for 1's-Hawpe and Sexson for Crawford and then Escobar and Ray for an SP, I would think you can do better than Bonderman. If the best you can get is Bonderman, I would hang on to Escobar (I know your goal is to open up the 2spots for your DL players)

But, if you took the pitchers out, would you do the Sexson and Hawpe for Crawford trade? And keep Escobar and Ray for another deal down the road.

edabbs44 · 05-25-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Leader

But, if you took the pitchers out, would you do the Sexson and Hawpe for Crawford trade? And keep Escobar and Ray for another deal down the road.

I would do the Sexson/Hawpe for CC deal. That is if you need speed.

IowaRed · 05-25-2006, 08:37 PM

That's how I would try it, Ray picked up another save today so you should be able to move him, and Escobar.

05-25-2006, 03:34 PM	#1
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Help me work this trade out! Ok, I think I'm close to making a trade to helping my roster situation. I give: OF Brad Hawpe 1B Richie Sexson SP Kelvim Escobar RP Chris Ray I get: OF Carl Crawford SP Jeremy Bonderman What do you think? I need to clear two spots on my roster for when Rich Harden and John Patterson return. I could pick up SP Matt Cain and another player for the two open spots on my roster. I could use the SB's. I already have 3 other good closers (Papelbon, Gordon, and B.J. Ryan) so I don't need Ray that much. Escobar and Bonderman are pretty even, I think, but I'd take Bonderman by a nose. What do you think, good deal or not? Assuming Escobar and Bonderman are pretty close, that's Sexson, Hawpe and Ray for Crawford---that's a lot to give up, isn't it? Should I take Ray out and just make it Sexson, Hawpe and Escobar for Crawford and Bonderman? __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy. Last edited by Red Leader; 05-25-2006 at 03:37 PM.

05-25-2006, 03:52 PM	#2
NJReds Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 5,410	Re: Help me work this trade out! That's an awful lot to give up for Crawford. His 5-for-5 night w/5 runs scored and 4 SB's last night really boosted his statline.

05-25-2006, 04:35 PM	#5
IowaRed I can do the Hully Gully Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,088	Re: Help me work this trade out! I think the 4 for 2 trade is too much to give up. If you broke those into 2 for 1's-Hawpe and Sexson for Crawford and then Escobar and Ray for an SP, I would think you can do better than Bonderman. If the best you can get is Bonderman, I would hang on to Escobar (I know your goal is to open up the 2spots for your DL players) __________________ More often than not, when someone is telling me a story all I can think about is that I can't wait for them to finish so that I can tell my own story that's not only better, but also more directly involves me.

05-25-2006, 08:37 PM	#8
IowaRed I can do the Hully Gully Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,088	Re: Help me work this trade out! That's how I would try it, Ray picked up another save today so you should be able to move him, and Escobar. __________________ More often than not, when someone is telling me a story all I can think about is that I can't wait for them to finish so that I can tell my own story that's not only better, but also more directly involves me.

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