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06-16-2006, 11:40 AM
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Redsmetz
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All Hispanic Team for The Reds
Okay, while we've all been hyperventilating over Castro invading Cincinnati (it's just Juan, folks - not Fidel!
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06-16-2006, 11:43 AM
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
OF-Vada Pinson
RP-Pedro Borbon And here's a question--Concepcion was from South America (Venezuala) does he qualify as Hispanic? I though it was from Central America--if that's the case, Lopez would be ss.
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06-16-2006, 11:51 AM
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
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No Reds latin team is complete without Armando Marsans and utility IF Rafael Almeida, the orginal latin imports. |
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06-16-2006, 11:58 AM
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
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Vada Pinson Vada Edward Pinson Jr. Bats Left, Throws Left Height 5' 11", Weight 181 lb. Debut April 15, 1958 Final Game September 28, 1975 Born August 11, 1938 in Memphis, TN Died October 21, 1995 in Oakland, CA
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06-16-2006, 12:04 PM
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breath
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06-16-2006, 12:07 PM
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
We could always move Doggie to 3B and put Roberto Petagine at first.
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06-16-2006, 12:08 PM
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Yay!
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How about Rolando Roomes? (Jamaica!) And out of the bullpen... Hector Carrasco!
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06-16-2006, 02:30 PM
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
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It seems in his first training camp, a coach thought he was Latin and didn't speak English, so he was speaking to him very slowly and distinctly. "You..have..to..hold..your..hands..like..this. Do..you..understand?" Pinson replied, "Perfectly." The coach's jaw dropped and then they both laughed. I saw this story in an article about Pinson in Sport magazine back in 1964 or '65. How about Angel Bravo? The guy choked up further than any player live seen.
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06-16-2006, 11:52 AM
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
How about Manny Sarmiento? Only with the team from 1976-1979, but did have two years of sub 2.50 E.R.A.
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06-16-2006, 12:47 PM
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
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Yes, I would add Pedro Borbon and shame on me for forgetting him. I would also add Manny Sarmiento, another fine pitcher whose arm fell off under the Reds tutelage. |
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06-16-2006, 11:54 AM
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2009: Fail
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
Would Louis Quonious (sp?) make the team?
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06-16-2006, 12:00 PM
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Tired of talk. Win!
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
Cesar Hernandez as an OFer to complete the all Cesar OF.
Kidding.
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06-16-2006, 12:09 PM
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
Juan Castro - 3B
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06-16-2006, 12:29 PM
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
Ok-I was wrong about Pinson.
How about Santo Alcala in the starting rotation?
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06-16-2006, 12:37 PM
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Stat Wanker Hodiernus
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Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds
His time here was short and I can't see him on any "all-time" team, but Jose Guillen had a nice little run in RF.
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