Jets Beat Miami; Bengals All But Eliminated From Playoffs

[macro]

Sunday's Bengals-Steelers game will be for bragging rights only. The Jets have just won in Miami and have secured the final AFC playoff spot. Their win Sunday at home against the Raiders is a given. Congratulations to the Bengals, who frittered away what could have been a good season, but instead they'll be sitting at home for the playoffs for the third time in Marvin's four seasons. I don't know about the rest of you, but 8-8 is gettin' kinda old.

[Doc. Scott]

It's the NFL. Any Given Sunday and all. So stop.

[Jpup]

The Titans are done now as well, but it doesn't hurt as much when you don't expect it and Vince Young is the QB of the future. Sorry for you Bengal fans as well. They did it to themselves and I know that doesn't make it any easier. They will be back next year.

Originally Posted by Jpup

They will be back next year.

In Paul Brown Stadium or in the Folsum State Pen?

[macro]

You're telling me you're giving the Raiders a chance?

[traderumor]

It is a misleading thread title, I think my small change is more appropriate

[forfreelin04]

Let me ask you something Macro, if the Bengals were playing Oakland to get into the playoffs would you still consider it a gimme?

[macro]

Originally Posted by forfreelin04

Let me ask you something Macro, if the Bengals were playing Oakland to get into the playoffs would you still consider it a gimme?

At home in the 2006 season? Yes.

[forfreelin04]

Originally Posted by macro

At home in the 2006 season? Yes.

The Super Bowl Champions would disagree.

[macro]

Point well taken. I changed it.

Now that I've had my little vent, what changes are needed for next year to get this franchise over the hump? I think a new defensive coordinator is something that most will agree on. Anything else needed?

[traderumor]

Originally Posted by macro

Point well taken. I changed it.

Now that I've had my little vent, what changes are needed for next year to get this franchise over the hump? I think a new defensive coordinator is something that most will agree on. Anything else needed?

Well, this would be two down in Marvin's tenure for what is supposed to be his specialty if that happens. I think the D is a talent problem first and a coaching problem second, but I'd say that both need significant changes. What it takes to fix both is probably the draft and free agency. I'd say you could argue that all of the LBers need replaced and two of the Dlineman. I'd let Justin Smith walk and find more playing time for Peko. Geathers is finally looking like a pass rushing end, but the rest need upgraded. Leave the offense alone, focus on the D and the offense won't be falling all over themselves to try to win the game, which is what I think the turnovers are coming from. Oh yea, and I'd trade Chris Henry.

[George Foster]

Originally Posted by traderumor

Well, this would be two down in Marvin's tenure for what is supposed to be his specialty if that happens. I think the D is a talent problem first and a coaching problem second, but I'd say that both need significant changes. What it takes to fix both is probably the draft and free agency. I'd say you could argue that all of the LBers need replaced and two of the Dlineman. I'd let Justin Smith walk and find more playing time for Peko. Geathers is finally looking like a pass rushing end, but the rest need upgraded. Leave the offense alone, focus on the D and the offense won't be falling all over themselves to try to win the game, which is what I think the turnovers are coming from. Oh yea, and I'd trade Chris Henry.

Losing your two starting linbackers really hurt this team, but our pass defense and the lack of ability to adjust (Colts game) is mind blowing. Marvin coached one of the best defenses in the modern era while in Baltimore. I can't understand why he does not take more of a hands on approach. I don't expect a Ravens defense, but to be in the basement or close to it is unexceptable knowing his defensive background.

[SunDeck]

Originally Posted by traderumor

Well, this would be two down in Marvin's tenure for what is supposed to be his specialty if that happens. I think the D is a talent problem first and a coaching problem second, but I'd say that both need significant changes. What it takes to fix both is probably the draft and free agency. I'd say you could argue that all of the LBers need replaced and two of the Dlineman. I'd let Justin Smith walk and find more playing time for Peko. Geathers is finally looking like a pass rushing end, but the rest need upgraded. Leave the offense alone, focus on the D and the offense won't be falling all over themselves to try to win the game, which is what I think the turnovers are coming from. Oh yea, and I'd trade Chris Henry.

I don't think getting rid of Henry leaves the offense alone. I'd keep him, but I'd assign a mommy to him 24/7.
I'd add a tight end.

The linebacker situation has to change. Too bad the Bengals had such impact players at that position go down (or out as was the case with idiot Thurman). I think that really set the progam back by quite a bit. I agree about the line, but unfortunately, there is a lot needed and it's hard to revamp so much in one offseason. I'd be tempted to move Geathers to LB, then try to bring in a quality interior lineman for starters, but can they get as lucky in the draft as they did when they landed Pollack? They sorely need a hitter to replace him at LB.

[StillFunkyB]

Originally Posted by macro

Point well taken. I changed it.

Now that I've had my little vent, what changes are needed for next year to get this franchise over the hump? I think a new defensive coordinator is something that most will agree on. Anything else needed?

Not so many stinking injuries.

Oh, and a new long snapper.

[Chip R]

As a Dolphins fan, I'm sorry. Nothing upsets me more than losing to the Jets.