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reds44 · 01-15-2007, 02:14 PM

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The Reds signed David Ross to a two-year deal today, avoiding arbitration with the catcher.

The team also reached a minor league deal with Paul Wilson, who was also invited to major league camp.

Aaron Harang and Kyle Lohse are still arbitration eligible, and tomorrow (Tuesday) is the day for players and teams to exchange numbers.

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Jpup · 01-15-2007, 02:22 PM

There is no reason for Harang to be this close to arbitration. He should already have been handed a long term contract. I'll hold out judgement on the Ross deal until I see the numbers.

Phhhl · 01-15-2007, 02:35 PM

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There is no reason for Harang to be this close to arbitration. He should already have been handed a long term contract. I'll hold out judgement on the Ross deal until I see the numbers.

Somehow, I don't think it's going to be as easy as handing out a contract to Harang. Last year he clearly asserted himself as a quality major league starter, and guys like that are raking in HUGE money these days. The Reds are going to have to ante up to keep him long term. Theo Epstein and Brian Cashman are probably already projecting him in their 2009 rotations.

maniem · 01-15-2007, 02:44 PM

I like Wilson, always have. If we had the Paul Wilson from a few years ago, he would have fit in nicely as our #4 starter. But I just don't understand why the Reds would bother signing a guy that has absolutely nothing left in the tank, yet pass on a guy like Claussen that is lefthanded, younger and has much more upside. Makes no sense. Did Wayne sour on Claussen that much?

Redlegs · 01-15-2007, 02:51 PM

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Did Wayne sour on Claussen that much?

I've never been impressed with Claussen. I felt he lacked agressiveness in going after hitters. The age factor is a valid point and noted, however, I never really saw him being a major player for the Reds. Especially in the Great American Ball Park.

Tom Servo · 01-15-2007, 03:04 PM

:wilson:

start printing the World Series tickets

CySeymour · 01-15-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jpup

There is no reason for Harang to be this close to arbitration.

To be honest, if I am Harang, I want to go to arbitration, if Cincinnati isn't giving me a huge contract. Concidering his stats have been equal to or better than Zito's the last couple of season, it isn't unrealistic for him to look for a 10m or better contract.

Redsland · 01-15-2007, 04:40 PM

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Concidering his stats have been equal to or better than Zito's the last couple of season, it isn't unrealistic for him to look for a 10m or better contract.

This is only his second year of arbitration eligibility, so he is limited in terms of which people he can compare himself to. He'll be restricted to other players with similar service time. Next year, however, he'll be able to compare himself to all players. That means he could shoot right past $10MM, but not this year.

CySeymour · 01-15-2007, 05:00 PM

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This is only his second year of arbitration eligibility, so he is limited in terms of which people he can compare himself to. He'll be restricted to other players with similar service time. Next year, however, he'll be able to compare himself to all players. That means he could shoot right past $10MM, but not this year.

Thanks Redsland

Redlegs · 01-15-2007, 02:49 PM

Paul Wilson can be a wildcard in the Reds rotation. He's been a forgotten man due to his injuries. If he can give them anything at all, it'll be a plus.

As for Ross, I felt he and Valentin was a nice one-two punch last season. Hopefully there's more where that came from.

dunner13 · 01-15-2007, 03:03 PM

Wilson's is a minor league deal so there is no risk. No downside at all to the signing.

Jpup · 01-15-2007, 03:06 PM

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Wilson's is a minor league deal so there is no risk. No downside at all to the signing.

except he will be wasting resources that could be better spent somewhere else.

toledodan · 01-15-2007, 04:46 PM

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except he will be wasting resources that could be better spent somewhere else.

if a minor league deal hurts a team resources than the team is in worse shape than we thought.

Will M · 01-15-2007, 04:50 PM

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if a minor league deal hurts a team resources than the team is in worse shape than we thought.

IslandRed · 01-15-2007, 05:02 PM

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if a minor league deal hurts a team resources than the team is in worse shape than we thought.

Exactly. If it's a typical shot-in-the-dark NRI, the only thing we're actually committed to paying is the token amount guys get for being in a big-league training camp.

01-15-2007, 02:22 PM	#2
Jpup Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern KY Posts: 6,967	Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signed to minor league deal There is no reason for Harang to be this close to arbitration. He should already have been handed a long term contract. I'll hold out judgement on the Ross deal until I see the numbers. __________________ "My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton

01-15-2007, 03:04 PM	#6
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,395	Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signed to minor league deal :wilson: start printing the World Series tickets __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

01-15-2007, 02:49 PM	#10
Redlegs Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Scout Seats Posts: 702	Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signed to minor league deal Paul Wilson can be a wildcard in the Reds rotation. He's been a forgotten man due to his injuries. If he can give them anything at all, it'll be a plus. As for Ross, I felt he and Valentin was a nice one-two punch last season. Hopefully there's more where that came from.

01-15-2007, 03:03 PM	#11
dunner13 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 589	Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signed to minor league deal Wilson's is a minor league deal so there is no risk. No downside at all to the signing.

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01-15-2007, 02:44 PM	#4
maniem Marty Moose!! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Carmel, IN Posts: 194	Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signed to minor league deal I like Wilson, always have. If we had the Paul Wilson from a few years ago, he would have fit in nicely as our #4 starter. But I just don't understand why the Reds would bother signing a guy that has absolutely nothing left in the tank, yet pass on a guy like Claussen that is lefthanded, younger and has much more upside. Makes no sense. Did Wayne sour on Claussen that much?