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Old 06-24-2007, 04:43 PM   #1
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Walt Jocketty anyone?

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......several clubs — including the Giants, Cubs, Mariners, Astros, Reds and Pirates — could change general managers at the end of the season. The Cardinals also could lose G.M. Walt Jocketty, who is under contract through 2008 but shadowed by Jeff Luhnow, the team's vice-president of scouting and player development.


Jocketty, who spent 14 seasons with the A's, would be a natural for the Giants, assuming the Cardinals allowed him to depart. He also could be a fit for the Reds, whose owner, Bob Castellini, previously was an investor with the Cardinals.
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Old 06-24-2007, 04:59 PM   #2
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Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

I heard the other day that he might leave St. L after the season. What's going on that he would want to leave there? Anybody know anything? Just tired of LaRussa ??? ha ha
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:02 PM   #3
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......several clubs — including the Giants, Cubs, Mariners, Astros, Reds and Pirates — could change general managers at the end of the season. The Cardinals also could lose G.M. Walt Jocketty, who is under contract through 2008 but shadowed by Jeff Luhnow, the team's vice-president of scouting and player development.


Jocketty, who spent 14 seasons with the A's, would be a natural for the Giants, assuming the Cardinals allowed him to depart. He also could be a fit for the Reds, whose owner, Bob Castellini, previously was an investor with the Cardinals.
I saw that in the same Rosenthal article that mentioned Adam Dunn.

For whatever reason, I don't see Jocketty as much of an improvement over Krivsky. Jocketty's had more payroll to play with in STL, and has had a better group of core talent to build around, not to mention more trading chips both on the MLB roster, and in the minors. I'm sure Krivsky could produce similar results if he were the Cardinals' GM.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:05 PM   #4
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Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

I could see this happening
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:13 PM   #5
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Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

No thanks. The Cardinals always seem to have a horrible farm system, plus I can't seem to get that trade of Dan Haren + Daric Barton for Mark Mulder out of my mind. That trade is far worse than anything Krivsky had did. If the Reds fire Krivsky - Chris Antonetti or Paul DePodesta are my top two choices. David Forst is another one I like.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:28 PM   #6
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Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

Maybe he's planning on taking Tony Larussa with him. yikes.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:31 PM   #7
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Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

If Castellini gives him an $80-90 million payroll like STL has, I'd drive to St. Louis to get him. I'd even pay for the U-Haul rental.
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:20 PM   #8
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Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

I hope to heck it doesn't happen, but I could see it happening because of Castellini's must-win attitude. Krivsky isn't winning (yet), and Jocketty has plenty of experience with winning.
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:22 PM   #9
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Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

You'd pooh-pooh Jocketty?

Boy oh boy.

It won't happen though.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:34 PM   #10
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You'd pooh-pooh Jocketty?

Boy oh boy.

It won't happen though.

That's what I think.

I'd love to have Jocketty, simply because he's great at identifying the missing piece a contender needs and getting it. He's smart enough to grab franchise players like Edmounds and Rolen when teams are stupid and want to dump them. His farm system is good enough to give him enough bait to trade for what he needs, and feed the ML team.

I wouldn't mind at all if Jocketty came here, but I doubt he'd be interested in rebuilding the Reds from scratch with an impatient owner. He's too smart to come here for 2-3 years and then get canned before he can finish the job. He'll go to a contender or a team close to contending.
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:29 PM   #11
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Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

I still think Special K is the guy who is going to be here next year...I think he and Mr. C are on the same page and that they have needed this year and last to start to turn the tug boat around to be the team that they want in place.

Is everything perfect? Nope...but I think this years team is what many expected of last years team...I sort of wish it would have happened this way last year.

I know I could be wrong but if the Reds ax Special K I want them to get the young guy from the Marlins...I can't think of his name...hmmm...and if they don't get him I would like them to grab someone from the Brewers brain trust.

I think the most complex thing about this teams situation is that there is SOME talent at the MLB level and the system is weak...I think bringing DanO back with a new GM as an assistant to be over the amateur scouting and draft would be a good move....go ahead, throw some stones.
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Old 06-24-2007, 11:32 PM   #12
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I think the most complex thing about this teams situation is that there is SOME talent at the MLB level and the system is weak...I think bringing DanO back with a new GM as an assistant to be over the amateur scouting and draft would be a good move....go ahead, throw some stones.
That's a very good point about DanO and I think you're on the right track. I wonder if Krivsky would be good in a similar position as well to dig out some players out of the bargain bin. It seems that has been the only strength thus far in Krivsky's tenure as GM and was a strength in Minnesota with such players like Johan Santana being nabbed up in the Rule 5 draft. I doubt Krivsky would take a demotion but I think would great to keep Krivsky and bring back DanO in different capacities under a new GM.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:29 PM   #13
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Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

I'd love to have Jocketty in Cincy.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:47 PM   #14
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Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

I'd be a bit leery given the state of the Cardinal farm system, but who knows...once the Jocketty itch afflicts Bob C. it could be hard to control...
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:50 PM   #15
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He has a history....and one of these...

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