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Old 09-25-2007, 12:46 PM   #1
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BA: Pioneer League Top 20 (3 REDS)

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1. Todd Frazier- showed polished approach, good instincts, has to move to 3rd or corner outfield

5. Brandon Waring- plus power, bat speed, may have to switch to LF or 1B

16. Justin Reed- raw, good range, slightly below average arm
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:54 PM   #2
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How many different MLB teams are represented in the Pioneer League?
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:09 PM   #3
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:19 PM   #4
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Frazschuh!

Bodes well. Waring at 5 is very solid, too. Some promising RH power bats (these two and Soto) added to the system -- much needed!
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:24 PM   #5
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:39 PM   #6
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I really think Frazier could fly through the minors. He fundamentally gets it at the plate.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:19 PM   #7
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I really think Frazier could fly through the minors. He fundamentally gets it at the plate.
Yep.

I think someone on here compared him to a more athletic Kevin Youkilis. I'll take it.
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:20 PM   #8
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I really think Frazier could fly through the minors. He fundamentally gets it at the plate.
Is that what you see? The prevailing opinion is that his swing is unorthodox and that it is inefficient. He has legitimate power potential, but he does not have a easy stroke. As a comparison, Jay Bruce has a smooth swing that produces easy power.
As I see it, Frazier is a desire/determination guy, not a tools or good fundamentals player. You can't argue with his success so far.
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Is that what you see? The prevailing opinion is that his swing is unorthodox and that it is inefficient. He has legitimate power potential, but he does not have a easy stroke. As a comparison, Jay Bruce has a smooth swing that produces easy power.
As I see it, Frazier is a desire/determination guy, not a tools or good fundamentals player. You can't argue with his success so far.
The game's full of unorthodox swings. Frazier knows what to swing at and that's most of the battle.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:52 AM   #10
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:14 PM   #11
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As I see it, Frazier is a desire/determination guy, not a tools or good fundamentals player. You can't argue with his success so far.
Justin Turner is a desire/determination guy. Frazier has plenty of tools.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:24 PM   #12
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There's been a lot of discussion who is the Reds top prospect after the "big four." I previously voted for Roenicke, although Stubbs, Wood, Francisco, Maloney, all got some mention.

All things considered, at this point, I think it is pretty clear that Todd Frazier is the fifth best Reds prospect after Bruce, Bailey, Cueto, and Votto (in whatever order).

And Waring gets consideration for the top ten.

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Old 09-25-2007, 09:23 PM   #13
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What do you guys think the power potential is for Frazier. He's been about as solid a hitter as they come so far in his career, and he's a big guy. Is 25 homers a reasonable expectation?
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:59 AM   #14
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There's been a lot of discussion who is the Reds top prospect after the "big four." I previously voted for Roenicke, although Stubbs, Wood, Francisco, Maloney, all got some mention.

All things considered, at this point, I think it is pretty clear that Todd Frazier is the fifth best Reds prospect after Bruce, Bailey, Cueto, and Votto (in whatever order).

And Waring gets consideration for the top ten.
I'd be amazed if Stubbs isn't listed at #5 when the propsect handbook comes out.
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:07 AM   #15
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I'd be amazed if Stubbs isn't listed at #5 when the propsect handbook comes out.
I am with you on that one. He isn't the hitter that Frazier is, but Stubbs at least knows his position, and he plays it VERY well. Frazier is likely #6 when the list comes out.
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