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Old 11-28-2007, 04:11 PM   #1
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Rule 5 Draft Discussion

The Rule 5 Draft coming up in a couple of weeks probably won't have results as exciting as last year's, mostly due to the fact that clubs can go without protecting players on their 40-man for an extra year. (This BA blog entry has some names that were added just in time.)

Here's a free Baseball America piece that explains it in detail.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...ws/265252.html

There have also been/will be a few Baseball Prospectus pieces about the draft, but they're subscriber only. One by Bryan Smith talks about AFL players that will be exposed come draft day. A few of those names:

Sung Ki Jung, RHR, Braves
Mark Rosen, LHR, Diamondbacks
Raul Padron, C, Athletics
Dusty Hughes, LHS, Royals
Lincoln Holdzkom, RHR, Red Sox
Fernando Hernandez, RHR, White Sox
Steven Jackson, RHR, Yankees
Jarrett Grube, RHR, Rockies

Smith promises more pieces as well, so I'll link those when they come up. Carlos Guevara is the only Reds player mentioned as a real Rule 5 possibility so far.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:27 PM   #2
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I'd rather protect Carlos Guevara than Craig Tatum.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:26 PM   #3
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I wonder if Krivsky can pull off another one or two this year?
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:47 PM   #4
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I wonder if Krivsky can pull off another one or two this year?
I doubt it. The fact that the Reds had 1 Rule V guy pan out in a season is impressive, the fact that they had two was incredible. I just don't expect it to happen again, even with 1 guy this year.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:37 PM   #5
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Re: Rule 5 Draft Discussion

You have to wonder if there is room. The only real option I see barring trades being made, is for a middle reliever type.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:25 PM   #6
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Re: Rule 5 Draft Discussion

Hmmmm...

Dusty Hughes is described in Smith's article as a left-handed starter who induces a lot of ground balls and was just voted Pitcher of the Year in the Arizina Fall League.

Hmmmm...
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:26 PM   #7
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Hmmmm...

Dusty Hughes is described in Smith's article as a left-handed starter who induces a lot of ground balls and was just voted Pitcher of the Year in the Arizina Fall League.

Hmmmm...

He's also five-foot-nine and doesn't get a lot of strikeouts.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:28 PM   #8
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He's also five-foot-nine and doesn't get a lot of strikeouts.
I don't know if this is a good thing or bad thing, but he is from the Royals' system...
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:27 PM   #9
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Hmmmm...

Dusty Hughes is described in Smith's article as a left-handed starter who induces a lot of ground balls and was just voted Pitcher of the Year in the Arizina Fall League.

Hmmmm...
Which is funny because his GB% in AA this year was 39% and in the AFL it was 40%.... someone wasn't paying enough attention when they made that comment.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:55 PM   #10
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I don't know if this is a good thing or bad thing, but he is from the Royals' system.
To me, it's a good thing. Bad teams are more likely than good teams to make mistakes and leave the wrong players unprotected.
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To me, it's a good thing. Bad teams are more likely than good teams to make mistakes and leave the wrong players unprotected.
thats what I was thinking, but then I was like, well, don't bad teams make bad decisions in the first place? I don't know, this is mind bottling...
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:53 PM   #12
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Re: Rule 5 Draft Discussion

When I look at all the people available, my eye goes to the reliever with a sub 3.00 ERA and 11.63 K/9. I wish we could get a like that........
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:42 AM   #13
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When I look at all the people available, my eye goes to the reliever with a sub 3.00 ERA and 11.63 K/9. I wish we could get a like that........
Yeah, but he does it with a trick pitch...
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Yeah, but he does it with a trick pitch...
I don't care how he does it. Let him keep doing it until it stops working. Mariano Rivera has done pretty well for himself a single pitch. Are there more pitchers in the majors throwing screwballs than there are in AA?

The point is, if you aren't going to promote him when he's absolutely dominating, then why keep him in your system at all? They should have traded him if they didn't think his screwball would work. I wouldn't give up on a guy who's killing his league because I think he might not succeed as he moves up. I'd move him up and see how it goes.

I view him like knuckleballer who's a lot easier to catch. Tim Wakefield has had a fine career throwing essentially a single pitch.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:34 AM   #15
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I don't care how he does it. Let him keep doing it until it stops working. Mariano Rivera has done pretty well for himself a single pitch. Are there more pitchers in the majors throwing screwballs than there are in AA?

The point is, if you aren't going to promote him when he's absolutely dominating, then why keep him in your system at all? They should have traded him if they didn't think his screwball would work. I wouldn't give up on a guy who's killing his league because I think he might not succeed as he moves up. I'd move him up and see how it goes.

I view him like knuckleballer who's a lot easier to catch. Tim Wakefield has had a fine career throwing essentially a single pitch.
I agree with you RMR. I was just being a smart-aleck.
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