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WMR · 02-18-2008, 04:18 PM

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...g_college.html

WMR · 02-18-2008, 04:20 PM

Make sure you check out the linked youtube clips. High comedy.

durl · 02-18-2008, 05:03 PM

I typically avoid Duke basketball games at all costs but I did catch a few minutes of a game earlier this season and there were times when Duke's opponents were charged with fouls that I didn't agree with. I was hoping to see replays on those calls, but I didn't see one replay of those close calls while I was watching. I figured that was because the game was on ESPN and they wouldn't show Duke in a bad light.

klw · 02-19-2008, 05:07 PM

Odds that the author attended a university with the word "Chapel" in its title: 88%

reds2221 · 02-24-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by klw

Odds that the author attended a university with the word "Chapel" in its title: 88%

yea......and if not there, then the name probably has the word "state" or "forest" in it....

MWM · 02-24-2008, 11:59 AM

While, I don't know about the whole "ruining college basketball" hyperbole, I did go watch the youube clips of the Clemson game, and WOW is all I can say. By watching these clips, it's obvious that it's real part of what the players at Duke are taught. You don't do it that often looking consistently the same unless you're taught. the flops they make on offense are the wrost ones.

Here's a link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeuuS2HiYEM

Razor Shines · 02-24-2008, 01:54 PM

This is so stupid. If you guys don't think that every other coach in the country at almost every level teaches their kids the same thing then you're kidding yourselves. There just aren't youtube clips created about any other team, because most other teams aren't hated as much as Duke. Watch the Duke - Wake Forrest game from last week, Kyle Singler fouled out when the Wake player obviously flopped. Everyone's taught to do it, Duke may spend more time on it or their players may take to it better, but everyone is taught it.

At every level I played basketball I was taught how to "sell" a charge. I remember having practices where we spent 45 mins on just lining up one at a time and taking a charge, including the stupid "AHHHHH!" sound you're supposed to make as you fall down.

cincrazy · 02-24-2008, 06:04 PM

I respect Duke, I think things get taken to a ridiculous level with them. When you have tons of success and you're a great program, things like this will happen. It's why the Yankees are hated, the Buckeyes are hated, Notre Dame is hated, etc. etc. etc. Success generates hatred, sadly enough.

traderumor · 02-24-2008, 06:10 PM

The officials used to have the option of calling a technical foul if it was clear that a team was flopping without contact. I actually saw it called in a high school game once on a team that was known for its flops.

WMR · 02-24-2008, 06:20 PM

If I'm not mistaken, it still IS a rule in the NCAA, tr, it's just never called, unfortunately.

Razor Shines · 02-24-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS

If I'm not mistaken, it still IS a rule in the NCAA, tr, it's just never called, unfortunately.

I wouldn't have a problem if the referees decided to start cracking down on it. I just think it's silly to think that it is a Duke specific problem.

And I hardly think it's ruining college basketball (the article only said "hurting" BTW). And the first sentence of the article is just as ridiculous as saying that Duke is ruining college basketball.

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Does anyone remember the good old days when college basketball was a wonderful spectator sport?

College basketball is still a pretty wonderful spectator sport, IMO.

Chip R · 02-24-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor Shines

College basketball is still a pretty wonderful spectator sport, IMO.

Agreed. I saw a couple of wonderful games yesterday with Butler and Drake and Tennessee and Memphis.

As for Duke, if you really believe they are ruining college basketball, ask yourself when was the last time they won the NCAA title and when was the last time they have been to a Final Four.

15fan · 02-24-2008, 08:41 PM

I find this article by Stewart Mandel to be a far better read regarding Duke.

BRM · 02-25-2008, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Razor Shines

College basketball is still a pretty wonderful spectator sport, IMO.

No doubt. There have been some great games this season IMO. I'm not a fan of either team but Saturday night's Tennessee/Memphis game was a tremendous one to see.

harangatang · 02-24-2008, 10:07 PM

I remember a very undersized Indiana Hoosiers team in 2002 beat Duke on their road to the championship game. While that game could've been spoiled by a foul called at the end of the game by the Hoosiers, there was a huge upset.

02-18-2008, 05:03 PM	#3
durl Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nashvull Posts: 1,743	Re: Duke University is ruining college basketball ... And how to stop it I typically avoid Duke basketball games at all costs but I did catch a few minutes of a game earlier this season and there were times when Duke's opponents were charged with fouls that I didn't agree with. I was hoping to see replays on those calls, but I didn't see one replay of those close calls while I was watching. I figured that was because the game was on ESPN and they wouldn't show Duke in a bad light.

02-19-2008, 05:07 PM	#4
klw Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New England Posts: 4,308	Re: Duke University is ruining college basketball ... And how to stop it Odds that the author attended a university with the word "Chapel" in its title: 88%

02-24-2008, 11:59 AM	#6
MWM Pre-tty, pre-tty good!! Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,171	Re: Duke University is ruining college basketball ... And how to stop it While, I don't know about the whole "ruining college basketball" hyperbole, I did go watch the youube clips of the Clemson game, and WOW is all I can say. By watching these clips, it's obvious that it's real part of what the players at Duke are taught. You don't do it that often looking consistently the same unless you're taught. the flops they make on offense are the wrost ones. Here's a link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeuuS2HiYEM __________________ Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David

02-24-2008, 01:54 PM	#7
Razor Shines Licking County Settlers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 6,174	Re: Duke University is ruining college basketball ... And how to stop it This is so stupid. If you guys don't think that every other coach in the country at almost every level teaches their kids the same thing then you're kidding yourselves. There just aren't youtube clips created about any other team, because most other teams aren't hated as much as Duke. Watch the Duke - Wake Forrest game from last week, Kyle Singler fouled out when the Wake player obviously flopped. Everyone's taught to do it, Duke may spend more time on it or their players may take to it better, but everyone is taught it. At every level I played basketball I was taught how to "sell" a charge. I remember having practices where we spent 45 mins on just lining up one at a time and taking a charge, including the stupid "AHHHHH!" sound you're supposed to make as you fall down. __________________ "three dimes, a one hundred dollar bill and and 87 ones..."

02-24-2008, 06:04 PM	#8
cincrazy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 4,135	Re: Duke University is ruining college basketball ... And how to stop it I respect Duke, I think things get taken to a ridiculous level with them. When you have tons of success and you're a great program, things like this will happen. It's why the Yankees are hated, the Buckeyes are hated, Notre Dame is hated, etc. etc. etc. Success generates hatred, sadly enough.

02-24-2008, 06:10 PM	#9
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,653	Re: Duke University is ruining college basketball ... And how to stop it The officials used to have the option of calling a technical foul if it was clear that a team was flopping without contact. I actually saw it called in a high school game once on a team that was known for its flops.

02-24-2008, 08:41 PM	#13
15fan Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,465	Re: Duke University is ruining college basketball ... And how to stop it I find this article by Stewart Mandel to be a far better read regarding Duke.

02-24-2008, 10:07 PM	#15
harangatang Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,493	Re: Duke University is ruining college basketball ... And how to stop it I remember a very undersized Indiana Hoosiers team in 2002 beat Duke on their road to the championship game. While that game could've been spoiled by a foul called at the end of the game by the Hoosiers, there was a huge upset. Last edited by harangatang; 02-24-2008 at 10:17 PM.

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