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Old 06-10-2008, 04:51 PM   #1
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Cardinals @ Reds: 6/10/08

Reds:
Jay Bruce CF
Paul Janish SS
Ken Griffey Jr. RF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Adam Dunn LF
Joey Votto 1B
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Paul Bako C
Homer Bailey P

Birds:
Skip Schumaker lf
Ryan Ludwick rf
Albert Pujols 1b
Rick Ankiel cf
Troy Glaus 3b
Yadier Molina c
Cesar Izturis ss
Mitchell Boggs p
Brendan Ryan 2b
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:13 PM   #2
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Re: Cardinals @ Reds: 6/10/08

No Edmonds.

Will George survive?
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:20 PM   #3
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No Edmonds.

Will George survive?
He'll get his fix next time we play the cubbies
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:42 PM   #4
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It should be interesting with Bruce leading off, but Janish in the 2-hole? That strikes me as really strange. It's like "if you play shortstop, you bat second" regardless of ability. But what do I know?
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:48 PM   #5
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It should be interesting with Bruce leading off, but Janish in the 2-hole? That strikes me as really strange. It's like "if you play shortstop, you bat second" regardless of ability. But what do I know?
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:59 PM   #6
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:52 PM   #7
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It should be interesting with Bruce leading off, but Janish in the 2-hole? That strikes me as really strange. It's like "if you play shortstop, you bat second" regardless of ability. But what do I know?
Reds have only three righty hitters in the lineup. And only two righty bats that have had any success. Phillips and EE.

Dusty doesn't want to use them both in the top part of the lineup and then have lots of lefties lined up in a row. This lineup is an attempt to avoid that problem.

He could have done --

Bruce
EE
Griffey
Phillips
Dunn
Votto
Janish
Bako

I guess he preferred to keep EE in his "normal" spot lower in the lineup and hit Janish second.

Reds need more righty hitting. With Kepp and Hairston both out, Reds need a lot more righty hitting.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:04 PM   #8
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Re: Cardinals @ Reds: 6/10/08

We're facing a RHP who has never pitched in the majors, nor experienced much minor league success until this year. His success this year has been based largely on unsustainably low hit and HR rate. Also, the Cardinals have one LOOGY in their pen, Ron Villone.

So basically, we're giving Paul Janish more at bats than Adam Dunn or JOey Votto, because we're afraid that in a late game situation, Ron Villone will be brought in and we'd rather have the light hitting SS with a .741 minor league OPS and 25 major league at bats at the plate over either of our .900+ OPS corner bats. Riiiiiiiiiiight. Good thinking Dusty.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:05 PM   #9
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It should be interesting with Bruce leading off, but Janish in the 2-hole? That strikes me as really strange. It's like "if you play shortstop, you bat second" regardless of ability. But what do I know?

I thought about hitting him second from the point of view that he should be on auto sac bunt mode for a week or so untill Kepp gets back.

The early 90's Pirates used to have a 2B(name escapes me, King maybe?) that made a living off of sac bunting Womack over for Bonilla and Bonds. I'm thinking something along those lines for Janish.

I hate to give up outs but it looks like he's pretty much an out anyway, might as well get what you can out of it.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:12 PM   #10
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The early 90's Pirates used to have a 2B(name escapes me, King maybe?) that made a living off of sac bunting Womack over for Bonilla and Bonds. I'm thinking something along those lines for Janish.
Womack came after Bonilla and Bonds. The years those two were there it was mostly Jay Bell and Andy Van Slyke ahead of them...

Maybe you're thinking of Jose Lind? Lind usually batted 8th though.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:10 PM   #11
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Re: Cardinals @ Reds: 6/10/08

Never heard of this guy pitching for the Cards tonight. So I guess that means he will pitch a three hit shutout.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:53 PM   #12
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Never heard of this guy pitching for the Cards tonight. So I guess that means he will pitch a three hit shutout.
Who is Alex Madrid?
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:36 PM   #13
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Re: Cardinals @ Reds: 6/10/08

Jay Bell was the big sac bunt guy.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:39 PM   #14
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Womack came after Bonilla and Bonds. The years those two were there it was mostly Jay Bell and Andy Van Slyke ahead of them...

Maybe you're thinking of Jose Lind? Lind usually batted 8th though.
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Jay Bell was the big sac bunt guy.

My bad I thought it was Womack but I remember the #2 hitter was a sac bunt machine.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:56 PM   #15
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Jay Bell was the big sac bunt guy.
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