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Old 09-03-2009, 02:40 PM   #1
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Jose Reyes Should Be Traded: Stark

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That brings us to Reyes, just by process of elimination. But he isn't quite the healthiest man on the planet, either. And even if he was, ask yourself this: Could the Mets really convince themselves to trade a player like this -- who is this talented, who's still only 26 years old and who is signed at highly affordable dollars for the next two years?

Well, three of the executives we polled said the Mets have to suck it up and do exactly that.
Don't know what it would take to get him, but if he's healthy, very few untouchables in the Reds organization in my mind.
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:43 PM   #2
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Re: Jose Reyes Should Be Traded: Stark

There is exactly 1 player I wouldn't trade for Jose Reyes and its Jay Bruce. Votto, Phillips, Bailey, Cueto.... any of them would be gone in a deal for Reyes. Minor Leaguers.... see ya later.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:30 PM   #3
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There is exactly 1 player I wouldn't trade for Jose Reyes and its Jay Bruce. Votto, Phillips, Bailey, Cueto.... any of them would be gone in a deal for Reyes. Minor Leaguers.... see ya later.
Given what Bruce's done in 2009, why hold onto him if he's the one player keeping us from obtaining Jose Reyes?
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:41 PM   #4
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Given what Bruce's done in 2009, why hold onto him if he's the one player keeping us from obtaining Jose Reyes?
Because his 2009 is busted up by the lowest BABIP in baseball this year and the lowest BABIP EVER by someone with his isolated power in the history of the game. He is a .900 OPS gold glove corner outfielder waiting to happen. I am not moving that type of guy while he is cheap. Votto is a little easier as a first baseman.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:51 PM   #5
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Because his 2009 is busted up by the lowest BABIP in baseball this year and the lowest BABIP EVER by someone with his isolated power in the history of the game. He is a .900 OPS gold glove corner outfielder waiting to happen. I am not moving that type of guy while he is cheap. Votto is a little easier as a first baseman.
Gotta give up something to get something.

Reyes is the SS the Reds should target if he's actually available.

I'd rather see a lock @ SS and trying and figure out the OF, rather than trying to figure out SS while continuing to try and figure out the OF.

Solve 1 problem, move onto the next.
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:06 PM   #6
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Because his 2009 is busted up by the lowest BABIP in baseball this year and the lowest BABIP EVER by someone with his isolated power in the history of the game. He is a .900 OPS gold glove corner outfielder waiting to happen. I am not moving that type of guy while he is cheap. Votto is a little easier as a first baseman.
His xBABIP is .240

Luck is the furthest thing from his problems.
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:51 PM   #7
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Re: Jose Reyes Should Be Traded: Stark

Isn't he having the same kind of hamstring surgery that Jr. had on his?
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:56 PM   #8
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Re: Jose Reyes Should Be Traded: Stark

I'd try and formulate a package around Yonder Alonso but I would guess the Mets would want pitching in return.
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:57 PM   #9
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Re: Jose Reyes Should Be Traded: Stark

To piggyback on what TheNext44 posted:
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•A variety of executives don't believe the Mets are close to winning soon. One says "there's no quick fix" for the team and another believes they have to rebuild.

•One scout believes it will take more than restored health and minor changes for the Mets to compete with the Phillies, Braves and Marlins next year.

•One of Stark's sources says Jerry Manuel and Omar Minaya could be fired if the team falls apart in September.

•More than one executive believes the Mets have a weak farm system. One exec says the prospects they do have are far from contributing in the majors.

•The Mets will need starting pitching, a catcher, a first baseman, at least one corner outfielder and a left-handed reliever after the season. They will have some money to spend, but it will be tough to meet those needs with dollars alone.
We have a surplus of outfielders (including the minor leagues). Alonso, Arroyo, Heisey, and Dorn for Reyes?
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:05 PM   #10
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To piggyback on what TheNext44 posted:

We have a surplus of outfielders (including the minor leagues). Alonso, Arroyo, Heisey, and Dorn for Reyes?
I'd say that is an unrealistic trade. Another club could top that pretty easy...that is if the Mets would agree to it...which I don't think they would.
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:12 PM   #11
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I'd say that is an unrealistic trade. Another club could top that pretty easy...that is if the Mets would agree to it...which I don't think they would.
They could? A top 25 prospect, a 200 IP league average pitcher, plus 2 backup outfielders (one with excellent defense and baserunning skills) for Reyes (whom obviously has the hamstring issue) would easily be topped by another team? I highly doubt that.
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Old 09-03-2009, 06:36 PM   #12
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They could? A top 25 prospect, a 200 IP league average pitcher, plus 2 backup outfielders (one with excellent defense and baserunning skills) for Reyes (whom obviously has the hamstring issue) would easily be topped by another team? I highly doubt that.
Alonso has great value. It seemed the Reds could not give Arroyo away this year. Plus you add 2 outfielders who have never been a high rated prospect nor have they been in the bigs even. I guess it all depends on your perspective...I think it could be beat by another team sending the Mets 2 high quality prospects plus a throw-in or 2 myself.
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:57 PM   #13
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Re: Jose Reyes Should Be Traded: Stark

Remember it's only two years of Reyes and it'll be for $10M each year.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:05 PM   #14
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Remember it's only two years of Reyes and it'll be for $10M each year.
Yeah, the Reds aren't allowed to spend for actual talent. I keep forgetting that.
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Yeah, the Reds aren't allowed to spend for actual talent. I keep forgetting that.
That was not my point and you know it.

Contractual obligations and the number of years he'd be controlled have to be factored in to what his price tag should be.
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