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| Brad Boxberger |
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1 | 0.83% |
| Zack Cozart |
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1 | 0.83% |
| Danny Dorn |
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2 | 1.67% |
| Juan Duran |
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0 | 0% |
| Matt Fairel |
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0 | 0% |
| Josh Fellhauer |
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0 | 0% |
| Billy Hamilton |
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1 | 0.83% |
| Chris Heisey |
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39 | 32.50% |
| Donnie Joseph |
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0 | 0% |
| Matt Klinker |
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0 | 0% |
| Matt Maloney |
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3 | 2.50% |
| Devin Mesoraco |
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0 | 0% |
| Mark Serrano |
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0 | 0% |
| Neftali Soto |
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1 | 0.83% |
| Juan Carlos Sulbaran |
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1 | 0.83% |
| Chris Valaika |
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1 | 0.83% |
| Travis Wood |
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69 | 57.50% |
| other - name him |
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1 | 0.83% |
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso
Prospect #2 - Mike Leake Prospect #3 - Todd Frazier Prospect #4 - Juan Francisco Prospect #5 - Yorman Rodriguez |
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: Bedford, KY
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
Wood and Heisey had great years at advanced levels. (Especially Wood-- those numbers at AA are ridiculous.) Duran has a world of talent (apparently), but no record of success at all.
Who else is even in the discussion? Cozart? I find it hard to believe a mid 700 OPS bat-- even as a plus defensive SS-- is this high on anyone's list. Soto? He didn't hit at all in High A though, to be fair, it could be at least in part because of the league and park. Sulburan, Hamilton, Fellhauer, Joseph, and Boxberger have little to no track record, while Dorn, Mesoraco, Valaika, et al didn't exactly cover themselves with laurels this season. Big drop, IMO, at this point.
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Stat Wanker Hodiernus
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
I went with Wood, again. I really like what Heisey has done, but like Maloney, he's no spring chicken and his upside his limited. At least Wood has youth on his side.
Cozart will probably be next on my list followed by the Maloney, Heisey, Dorn group of guys with high floors but low ceilings.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
As much as I love Heisey--especially his intangibles--I have to stick with Wood.
As for Scrap's question of who else should be in the discussion . . . I started to say that Ondrusek should be. But I see that he's not on the list yet. I'd like to recommend him as the next addition. Donnie Joseph is already on; and while I don't disagree with that, you could easily argue that Ondrusek is the best relief prospect in the system. I'm also ready for Juan Silva to make the list. His combination of youth and production compares very favorably. |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bristol, just around the corner from ESPN
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
I'm not sold on Heisey as much as others, so I went with the safe choice, which I felt was Travis Wood.
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The Big Dog
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
I'm not sold on Wood as much as others, so I went with the safe choice, which I felt was Chris Heisey.
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Et tu, Brutus?
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
I went with Wood here, but out of curiosity... 299/370/462 lifetime in the minors, OPS 832, not impressive to you for a centerfielder? I'm not sure if your expectations are fair for players if an 830 OPS from a CF is not impressive, especially one said to be a very, very good defensive player.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
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Setting the World on fire for all of 350 ABs @ AA kinda loses a lot of its shine when he moves up to AAA and watches both his OBP and SLG drop at a staggering rate, most of which was due to Chris forgetting how to, or struggling to take a walk @ AAA. I wanna see more of him @ AAA definitely, but I hope he returns to his AA form @ AAA. |
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The Big Dog
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
Upside doesn't equal safe. Lack of huge downside equals safe. I think Heisey is a sure thing to be a major league OF. He's got a little of everything including power, speed, defense, on base skills and attitude. He may not be a star, but I think his downside is useful player. Wood could be a guy who doesn't have the stuff for major leaguers. He had a couple of bad years before his big 2009 and 5'11" and 166 pounds makes me skeptical of his ability to hold up in the big leagues. I hope Wood becomes a reliable starter but his downside is lower than Heisey's IMO.
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
Chris Heisey.
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
Cozart
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
I took Maloney again. I like him better than Wood for the fact that he IS older and experienced, still only 25, on the cusp of the majors (I think he's the #5 next April), and has been consistently good (if not a bit slow growing).
I know Wood has bounced back from a rough 2008, but his AAA numbers still suffer a bit next to Maloney. Once Matt gets to Cincy, if he can gain confidence, I think he fits the Reds well with low bb rates. Like Harang, if he gets beat, it won't be with the bases juiced very often. He also has over Wood a size advantage and is pretty good with the bat, small things to add. |
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Vampire Weekend @Bernie's
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect?
This is the first time I've seen someone like a prospect more because he's older. I think Maloney is underrated, but I still have to go with Wood.
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