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Raisor · 12-14-2009, 04:14 PM

2:55pm: Heyman says the Red Sox and Lackey are in agreement in a five-year, $85MM deal

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blumj · 12-14-2009, 04:29 PM

Yikes, no wonder SOSH crashed.

RedsManRick · 12-14-2009, 04:31 PM

Interesting. That seems a bit out of left field. I wouldn't be surprised to see them make a dea for a bat using Buchholz as the primary bait -- perhaps for Miguel Cabrera.

blumj · 12-14-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

Interesting. That seems a bit out of left field. I wouldn't be surprised to see them make a dea for a bat using Buchholz as the primary bait -- perhaps for Miguel Cabrera.

No way they pay Lackey $17M a year in order to trade Buchholz for a guy who makes $20M? a year.

bucksfan2 · 12-14-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

Interesting. That seems a bit out of left field. I wouldn't be surprised to see them make a dea for a bat using Buchholz as the primary bait -- perhaps for Miguel Cabrera.

I think the Dice K project has finally worn out. I think you will see a rotation of Beckett, Lackey, Lester, and Buckholtz with Dice K and Wakefield being the swing guys.

redsfandan · 12-14-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

Interesting. That seems a bit out of left field. I wouldn't be surprised to see them make a dea for a bat using Buchholz as the primary bait -- perhaps for Miguel Cabrera.

Adrian Gonzalez is more likely.

nate · 12-14-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

Interesting. That seems a bit out of left field. I wouldn't be surprised to see them make a dea for a bat using Buchholz as the primary bait -- perhaps for Miguel Cabrera.

Or maybe Adrian Gonzales:

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One rival GM theorizes that if the Red Sox sign free-agent right-hander John Lackey, they then will lock up righty Josh Beckett long- term and trade righty Clay Buchholz in a package for Padres first baseman Adrian Gonzalez.

Under that scenario, first baseman Kevin Youkilis would move to third and the Sox would employ a Mike Cameron-Jeremy Hermida type platoon in left.

The Sox's big investments would be Lackey and Beckett; Gonzalez will earn a club-friendly $4.75 million next season, and his deal includes a $5.5 million club option for 2011.

lollipopcurve · 12-14-2009, 04:34 PM

Red Sox metamorphosis to Yankees North continues.

Tom Servo · 12-14-2009, 04:56 PM

Adrian Gonzalez is the target I believe, not Miggy.

Eric_the_Red · 12-14-2009, 04:58 PM

As a part-time BoSox fan (my AL team), I like it. Anything to foil the Yanks.

I think 5 years is a bit much for a SP, especially one with past health problems.

blumj · 12-14-2009, 06:48 PM

http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/6677312207

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Cameron in serious talks with Red Sox on two-year deal. CF or LF unclear.

redsfandan · 12-14-2009, 07:09 PM

Due to his defense Cameron could actually be more valuable than Bay but at close to half the price.

nate · 12-14-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by redsfandan

Due to his defense Cameron could actually be more valuable than Bay but at close to half the price.

Yep. He'd lose some of that value if he played left but I think he'd still be pretty good out there.

redsfandan · 12-14-2009, 09:11 PM

Mike Cameron Agrees To Deal With Boston

By Zach Links [December 14 at 7:58pm CST]

7:58pm: The deal is in the range of $15.5MM for two years, tweets Ken Rosenthal.

edabbs44 · 12-14-2009, 09:31 PM

If Gonzo is going to fetch a package of players led by Buchholz, I'd be taking Theo's temperature on Votto.

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Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,402	Re: John Lackey signs with... Adrian Gonzalez is the target I believe, not Miggy. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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Eric_the_Red Mr.Redlegs is my homeboy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 2,171	Re: John Lackey signs with... As a part-time BoSox fan (my AL team), I like it. Anything to foil the Yanks. I think 5 years is a bit much for a SP, especially one with past health problems.

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redsfandan Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,355	Re: John Lackey signs with... Due to his defense Cameron could actually be more valuable than Bay but at close to half the price. __________________ "Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

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redsfandan Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,355	Re: John Lackey signs with... Mike Cameron Agrees To Deal With Boston By Zach Links [December 14 at 7:58pm CST] 7:58pm: The deal is in the range of $15.5MM for two years, tweets Ken Rosenthal. __________________ "Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

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