2010 UC Football

[BearcatShane]

Any Bearcat Football fans on here extremely excited for the football season? Here is a look at UC's 2010 schedule:

Sat. September 4th @Fresno State 10:00PM ESPN2
Sat. September 11th Indiana State 12:00 Fox Sports Ohio
Thurs. September 16th @North Carolina State 7:30 ESPN
Sat. September 25th Oklahoma TBA TBA

Sat. October 9th Miami Ohio TBA TBA
Fri. October 15th @Louisville 8:00 ESPN
Fri. October 22nd South Florida 8:00 ESPN2
Sat. October 30th Syracuse TBA TBA

Sat. November 13th @West Virginia TBA TBA
Sat. November 20th Rutgers TBA TBA
Sat. November 27th @Uconn TBA TBA

Sat. December 4th Pittsburgh TBA ABC/ESPN or ESPN2


So 72 days until the Cats kickoff on the West Coast vs Fresno State. What is everyone's expectations of the Butch Jones led Bearcats? I think the offense will be explosive, Collaros at quarterback, Pead at running back, Binns, Woods, Hazelton, Thompkins and Barrnet will probably be the main recievers. Anyone of those guys can take it to the house at anytime. The defense will be moving back to the 4-3 so I would think they would have to be a little better this year than last year. Also, I'v been hearing that UC is about to announce 2-4 transfers from USC soon with one being a linebacker that should play right away. We should see that announced soon. I think it will be another fun year for the Bearcats and there fans. Go Cats!

[jredmo2]

Originally Posted by BearcatShane

Also, I'v been hearing that UC is about to announce 2-4 transfers from USC soon with one being a linebacker that should play right away. We should see that announced soon.

What what what?!! Where did you hear this from? That would be fantastic!

[Cyclone792]

I've got season tickets this year so I'm definitely looking forward to the season. Hopefully this year UC starts off with a decent ranking inside the top 25 which would give them a chance to really move up the polls if they pile on the wins.

Obviously, with their nonconference schedule this year, UC has the strength of schedule to move up quick if they start hot. I see the Fresno State game similar to last year's Rutgers opener. I don't particularly like playing on the road against a solid team to open the season, but if UC wins that game it should really give them an excellent push heading into the NC State and Oklahoma games.

[Chip R]

Originally Posted by BearcatShane

Also, I'v been hearing that UC is about to announce 2-4 transfers from USC soon with one being a linebacker that should play right away. We should see that announced soon.

They are going to have to take a pay cut.

[dougdirt]

I expect a 10 win season and a push for another BE title. I have a lot more questions about the defense than the offense (like everyone else I am sure).

[NorrisHopper30]

Vidal Hazelton has hinted at MULTIPLE transfers from USC on his twitter.

[Roy Tucker]

The offense should light up the scoreboard again.

But the defense needs to improve considerably over the 2009 model.

[joshnky]

Originally Posted by BearcatShane

Also, I'v been hearing that UC is about to announce 2-4 transfers from USC soon with one being a linebacker that should play right away.

I'm not sure if this is who you're referring to, but Jordan Campbell, who was considering UC, just signed a scholarship offer with UofL. He'll likely start at LB for UofL next season.

[Cedric]

Originally Posted by joshnky

I'm not sure if this is who you're referring to, but Jordan Campbell, who was considering UC, just signed a scholarship offer with UofL. He'll likely start at LB for UofL next season.

UofL is a perfect example of what happens to CFB teams with no tradition. There just isn't a built in fan base that can sustain bad coaches/bad years.

[jredmo2]

Originally Posted by Cedric

UofL is a perfect example of what happens to CFB teams with no tradition. There just isn't a built in fan base that can sustain bad coaches/bad years.

See:

Miami Hurricanes pre-Schnellenberger
Florida Gators pre-Spurrier
Virginia Tech pre-Beamer
Florida State pre-Bowden

All had marginal football programs before and are now national powers (to varying degrees). Not that this is the norm, but history has shown that previously marginal programs can achieve sustained success.

[Hoosier Red]

Originally Posted by jredmo2

See:

Miami Hurricanes pre-Schnellenberger
Florida Gators pre-Spurrier
Virginia Tech pre-Beamer
Florida State pre-Bowden

All had marginal football programs before and are now national powers (to varying degrees). Not that this is the norm, but history has shown that previously marginal programs can achieve sustained success.

Aside from the U(who hit it big with a 2nd big coach right in a row) the other programs had the advantage of one guy coaching for at least 10 years as well.

I don't doubt that Butch Jones can continue on the path Dantonio, Kelly et al have started them on, but Cedric's correct that one bad coaching hire can really destroy any progress made to this point.

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by Hoosier Red

Aside from the U(who hit it big with a 2nd big coach right in a row) the other programs had the advantage of one guy coaching for at least 10 years as well.

I don't doubt that Butch Jones can continue on the path Dantonio, Kelly et al have started them on, but Cedric's correct that one bad coaching hire can really destroy any progress made to this point.

If Jones can do what you say, then can UC retain him like the examples given earlier (Va Tech, FL, FSU)?

[Revering4Blue]

Originally Posted by jredmo2

See:

Miami Hurricanes pre-Schnellenberger
Florida Gators pre-Spurrier
Virginia Tech pre-Beamer
Florida State pre-Bowden

All had marginal football programs before and are now national powers (to varying degrees). Not that this is the norm, but history has shown that previously marginal programs can achieve sustained success.

See also:

Kansas State pre-Snyder
Northwestern pre-Barnett
Oregon State pre-Riley

[joshnky]

Originally Posted by Cedric

UofL is a perfect example of what happens to CFB teams with no tradition. There just isn't a built in fan base that can sustain bad coaches/bad years.

Except that it took three years for attendance to dip by any significant measure and the football team still made more money than UC. Given the stadium expansion and new coach UofL should set attendance records this year despite a few "bad years".

So, I don't think your point holds water. In fact, I'd say UofL is a "perfect example" of how to build a sustainable program despite a lack of tradition. Use success to improve the facilities so that the downturn is short and the fans are willing to stick around. It also helps immensely that Louisville is a college town.

[Cedric]

Originally Posted by joshnky

Except that it took three years for attendance to dip by any significant measure and the football team still made more money than UC. Given the stadium expansion and new coach UofL should set attendance records this year despite a few "bad years".

So, I don't think your point holds water. In fact, I'd say UofL is a "perfect example" of how to build a sustainable program despite a lack of tradition. Use success to improve the facilities so that the downturn is short and the fans are willing to stick around. It also helps immensely that Louisville is a college town.

Louisville is irrelevant in CFB to most. Other than for a few years they just haven't mattered.

I've went to UC for undergrad and Ohio State for grad school. It's easy to see the programs with tradition and staying power and the one's who won't sustain.

Tradition, stadium, and strong recruiting base are the keys, IMO.