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07-22-2011, 11:54 AM
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2 trades the Reds need to make
James Shields to the Reds
for Yonder Alonso, Yasmani Grandal, Todd Frazier, Kyle Lotzkar, and Philippe Valiquette Its a lot to give up in 2 top 10 prospects 2 top 20 and a top 30 but the Reds need a top end of the rotation guy to go along with Cueto. Plus he's under contract for 3 more years and he's only 29. This would be a good trade both ways. Ryan Ludwick to the Reds for Chris Heisey or Dave Sappelt either or and Donnie Joseph. Worst part of this deal would be that Ludwick is a FA after the season. But he would be a upgrade to our current LF and clean up hitting situations. Lineup and rotation after trades. Phillips Cozart Votto Ludwick Bruce Rolen Stubbs Hernandez/Hannigan Rotation Cueto Shields Leake Willis/Bailey Arroyo/Bailey Looks solid. |
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07-22-2011, 12:13 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
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07-22-2011, 12:31 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
Heisey is never going to be more than a 4th OF.
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07-22-2011, 01:18 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
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07-22-2011, 01:25 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
What about this?
Rays get Alonso, Wood, Grandal, Smith, Duran Reds Get Shields, Zobrist and Giants get Hernandez, Ptbnl Reds get Javier Lopez and Braves get Johhny Gomes Reds get ptbnl or cash and Padres get Heisey, ptbnl Reds get Ludwick Thoughts? |
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07-22-2011, 01:37 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
Okay here we go..talk about blockbuster..
Reds send Yonder and Devin M to Rays for Shields Reds send Bailey and Stubbs to Houston for Pence Reds send Wood/Fransico/Heisey/EV/another minor leaguer to Rockies for Ubaldo J. Reds new rotation is: Cueto Ubaldo Shields Leake Bronson BO: Cozart - SS Phillips - 2nd Votto - 1st Pence - LF Bruce - RF Herenandez - C Rolen - 3rd Sapplet - CF Last edited by brm7675; 07-22-2011 at 01:41 PM. |
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07-22-2011, 06:32 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
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Hunter Pence, in my opinion, while people know he is good, is one of if not THE most underrated outfielder in the game. He is a big time player.. I am a huge Hunter Pence fan. |
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07-22-2011, 09:31 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
Why are people willing to give up our top prospect at FB in Yonder when in 2 years they are saying we are not going to afford Votto? Not been a baseball fan for to long so this is a honest question. Is there other options at FB?
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07-22-2011, 11:50 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
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Pence Lf Cozrart ss Phillips 2nd Votto 1rst Hernandez C Bruce rf Stubbs cf whoever's playing 3rd |
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07-22-2011, 01:49 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
i like the idea of getting shields, but i wouldn't give up the farm to get him. We will see what happens, but i do think we need to get an ACE and a bat before the deadline. I also think hernandez needs to go.
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07-22-2011, 02:06 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
Trade speculation=good times
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07-22-2011, 03:51 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
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Heisey is better than Ludwick now. Last edited by FireDusty; 07-22-2011 at 03:54 PM. |
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07-22-2011, 05:34 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
Why do people want Ludwick? He's an old average rent a player. We have Heisey, Gomes, Sappelt, Dorn and others who can probably give us just as much.
I don't want Ludwick. Waste of a trade.
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07-22-2011, 10:30 PM
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Re: 2 trades the Reds need to make
They need a big bat and a #1 type pitcher
The Bat gets them to the playoffs The Pitcher gets them out of the 1st round of the playoffs Do they have enough chips to land two good players? Shields would be great for the pitcher, hell he shut down the Yankees the last two times he faced them But what is the bat they could get, Ludwick is no better than what we already have Ludwick .693 OPS Current LF'ers on Reds .683 .010 OPS is not worth giving up any players for |
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