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texasdave · 09-13-2011, 03:32 PM

Leake's FINAL final start of the year.

Phillips
Renteria
Votto
Bruce
Alonso
Stubbs
Francisco
Mesoraco
Leake

This will be Francisco's 9th start at third since 9/1. Todd Frazier has made 2 starts there. I'd like to see Frazier get a couple starts at short. If he is going to be a utility guy then see if he can or can't handle the position.

texasdave · 09-13-2011, 03:41 PM

How did it evolve in baseball that batting a crappy, light-hitting batter in the two spot was a good idea? It just seems to me that you want to bat your better hitters as much as possible.

brm7675 · 09-13-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by texasdave

How did it evolve in baseball that batting a crappy, light-hitting batter in the two spot was a good idea? It just seems to me that you want to bat your better hitters as much as possible.

Simple you want that veteran creaminess at the top of your order...

Stray · 09-13-2011, 04:29 PM

You gotta think Cairo will be on the team next year, and deservedly so really. We know Rolen will be back, and it's looking like Francisco is making a strong bid to be here. Could we still have room for Frazier too? I'd like to if possible.

His lack of PT at SS is telling on how management views his future there. At the same time it really couldn't hurt. I know he can play LF too so a backup out there is a possibility, but he'd have to get in line.

I guess the worst case scenario for him is to wait on Rolen's first trip to the DL next year.

texasdave · 09-13-2011, 07:15 PM

Castro walks. Barney singles. Eek. Ramirez flies out and Pena strikes out. Big out. LaHair rockets to Stubbs as Leake wriggles out of danger.

texasdave · 09-13-2011, 07:21 PM

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His lack of PT at SS is telling on how management views his future there. At the same time it really couldn't hurt.

Nobody is suggesting that Frazier should play short on a regular basis. I still think they should take a look at him there.

texasdave · 09-13-2011, 07:24 PM

What has gotten into Brandon Phillips? Another bomb. Renteria doubles. Votto walks. Dempster shaky out of the box.

Red Raindog · 09-13-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by texasdave

What has gotten into Brandon Phillips? Another bomb. Renteria doubles. Votto walks. Dempster shaky out of the box.

But Stubbs is still working on getting his numbers ---- sigh -- another K

texasdave · 09-13-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Righthander

But Stubbs is still working on getting his numbers ---- sigh -- another K

The only number Stubbs is getting is 200 - as in Ks.

texasdave · 09-13-2011, 07:36 PM

First and second with nobody gone and the runners don't budge. Bruce Ks. Alonso lines hard to left-center. Stubbs Ks. Yawn. 189.

brm7675 · 09-13-2011, 07:38 PM

Sorry but this first inning is more proof why this team needs to get hitting over pitching. To only score 1 run is laughable when you have runners at 2nd and 1st with no outs and score NO ONE...

CWRed · 09-13-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brm7675

Sorry but this first inning is more proof why this team needs to get hitting over pitching. To only score 1 run is laughable when you have runners at 2nd and 1st with no outs and score NO ONE...

Frustrating as it is...the pitching is the main problem. The "proof" is out there for all to see:

7th in ML in runs scored. 5th in ML in HR. 12th in ML in BA. Have left too many on base this year but well, so has Boston.

23rd in ML in ERA. 25th in ML in walks. 23rd in Earned Runs.

A bat would be nice. But 'nuff said.

texasdave · 09-13-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CWRed

Frustrating as it is...the pitching is the main problem. The "proof" is out there for all to see:

7th in ML in runs scored. 5th in ML in HR. 12th in ML in BA. Have left too many on base this year but well, so has Boston.

23rd in ML in ERA. 25th in ML in walks. 23rd in Earned Runs.

A bat would be nice. But 'nuff said.

Stop making sense.

CWRed · 09-13-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by texasdave

Stop making sense.

Ha Ha. It's the last time this year I promise. Unless BRM makes me.

Red Raindog · 09-13-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by texasdave

Stop making sense.

Talking Heads --- one of my favorite albums!

09-13-2011, 03:32 PM	#1
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,528	Cubs - Reds - Tuesday 9/13/2011 Leake's FINAL final start of the year. Phillips Renteria Votto Bruce Alonso Stubbs Francisco Mesoraco Leake This will be Francisco's 9th start at third since 9/1. Todd Frazier has made 2 starts there. I'd like to see Frazier get a couple starts at short. If he is going to be a utility guy then see if he can or can't handle the position. Last edited by texasdave; 09-13-2011 at 03:40 PM.

09-13-2011, 03:41 PM	#2
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,528	Re: Cubs - Reds - Tuesday 9/13/2011 How did it evolve in baseball that batting a crappy, light-hitting batter in the two spot was a good idea? It just seems to me that you want to bat your better hitters as much as possible.

09-13-2011, 04:29 PM	#4
Stray Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,759	Re: Cubs - Reds - Tuesday 9/13/2011 You gotta think Cairo will be on the team next year, and deservedly so really. We know Rolen will be back, and it's looking like Francisco is making a strong bid to be here. Could we still have room for Frazier too? I'd like to if possible. His lack of PT at SS is telling on how management views his future there. At the same time it really couldn't hurt. I know he can play LF too so a backup out there is a possibility, but he'd have to get in line. I guess the worst case scenario for him is to wait on Rolen's first trip to the DL next year.

09-13-2011, 07:15 PM	#5
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,528	Re: Cubs - Reds - Tuesday 9/13/2011 Castro walks. Barney singles. Eek. Ramirez flies out and Pena strikes out. Big out. LaHair rockets to Stubbs as Leake wriggles out of danger. Last edited by texasdave; 09-13-2011 at 07:20 PM.

09-13-2011, 07:24 PM	#7
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,528	Re: Cubs - Reds - Tuesday 9/13/2011 What has gotten into Brandon Phillips? Another bomb. Renteria doubles. Votto walks. Dempster shaky out of the box. Last edited by texasdave; 09-13-2011 at 07:28 PM.

09-13-2011, 07:36 PM	#10
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,528	Re: Cubs - Reds - Tuesday 9/13/2011 First and second with nobody gone and the runners don't budge. Bruce Ks. Alonso lines hard to left-center. Stubbs Ks. Yawn. 189.

09-13-2011, 07:38 PM	#11
brm7675 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,666	Re: Cubs - Reds - Tuesday 9/13/2011 Sorry but this first inning is more proof why this team needs to get hitting over pitching. To only score 1 run is laughable when you have runners at 2nd and 1st with no outs and score NO ONE...

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