Baseball America Top 10 List

[redsof72]

1. Devin Mesoraco, c
2. Billy Hamilton, ss
3. Yonder Alonso, 1b/of
4. Yasmani Grandal, c
5. Zack Cozart, ss
6. Daniel Corcino, rhp
7. Robert Stephenson, rhp
8. DiDi Gregorius, ss
9. Todd Frazier, 3b/1b/of
10. Brad Boxberger, rhp

[redsfandan]

No Yorman or Soto but they do include Gregorius. Interesting.

[klw]

Originally Posted by redsfandan

No Yorman or Soto but they do include Gregorius. Interesting.

Gregorius hasn't gotten a single vote yet for any of the rounds so far here on Redszone.

[redsfandan]

Originally Posted by klw

Gregorius hasn't gotten a single vote yet for any of the rounds so far here on Redszone.

Yeah, I know. I don't get that. Why would they have him so high?

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by klw

Gregorius hasn't gotten a single vote yet for any of the rounds so far here on Redszone.

He is my #12 prospect, and I could have easily put him at #11 without much of an after thought to it. He is the best athlete in the system aside from Billy Hamilton, makes a ton of contact, has some pop when he stays back on the ball (he completely changes his stance and approach when he reaches two strikes, so his power numbers don't always tell us what his power actually is), is a better defensive player potentially than anyone in the system who can hit their way out of a wet paper bag (Miguel Rojas) and has plus speed.

[klw]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

He is my #12 prospect, and I could have easily put him at #11 without much of an after thought to it. He is the best athlete in the system aside from Billy Hamilton, makes a ton of contact, has some pop when he stays back on the ball (he completely changes his stance and approach when he reaches two strikes, so his power numbers don't always tell us what his power actually is), is a better defensive player potentially than anyone in the system who can hit their way out of a wet paper bag (Miguel Rojas) and has plus speed.

Can you do a comparison of Henry Rodriguez vs. Didi?

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by klw

Can you do a comparison of Henry Rodriguez vs. Didi?

Henry is a better hitter. More current power, though I don't think he has the edge in raw power. Didi is by far the better defender, better arm, better speed.

[klw]

Originally Posted by redsof72

1. Devin Mesoraco, c
2. Billy Hamilton, ss
3. Yonder Alonso, 1b/of
4. Yasmani Grandal, c
5. Zack Cozart, ss
6. Daniel Corcino, rhp
7. Robert Stephenson, rhp
8. DiDi Gregorius, ss
9. Todd Frazier, 3b/1b/of
10. Brad Boxberger, rhp

Compare to Redszone Top 10- so you don't need to flip back and forth

#1 C Devin Mesoraco
#2 1B/OF Yonder Alonso
#3 C Yasmani Grandal
#4 SS Billy Hamilton
#5 SS Zack Cozart
#6 RHP Dan Corcino
#7 RHP Robert Stephenson
#8 RHP Brad Boxberger
#9 1B Neftali Soto
#10 OF Yorman Rodriguez

[mace]

I can see the Gregorius thing. He's young, he's fast, he has a good track record of hitting, and he supposedly plays a legitimate shortstop. I suspect that his position had a lot to do with it; and understandably so.

Actually, I'm more surprised by Corcino and Stephenson. I know it's consistent with where we had them, but I thought that our results were a little skewed along those lines. Apparently not.

I still think that, sooner or later--probably sooner--Torreyes is going to turn these rankings on their ear.

[redsfandan]

Originally Posted by mace

I can see the Gregorius thing. He's young, he's fast, he has a good track record of hitting, and he supposedly plays a legitimate shortstop. I suspect that his position had a lot to do with it; and understandably so.

Actually, I'm more surprised by Corcino and Stephenson. I know it's consistent with where we had them, but I thought that our results were a little skewed along those lines. Apparently not.

I still think that, sooner or later--probably sooner--Torreyes is going to turn these rankings on their ear.

Last time he had a good obp was in '09 when he was in rookie ball.

[mace]

Originally Posted by redsfandan

Last time he had a good obp was in '09 when he was in rookie ball.

Yeah, if all you do is scroll down the OBP column, I can see that. But he did OPS .753 this year as a 21-year-old in High-A and AA. He's never batted below .272 over a season (since an abbreviated first year in '08). Not bad for a young shortstop. From what's been written on these boards over the recent years, it seems like he's always been considered a pretty good offensive player.

[redsfandan]

Originally Posted by mace

Yeah, if all you do is scroll down the OBP column, I can see that. But he did OPS .753 this year as a 21-year-old in High-A and AA. He's never batted below .272 over a season (since an abbreviated first year in '08). Not bad for a young shortstop. From what's been written on these boards over the recent years, it seems like he's always been considered a pretty good offensive player.

I'm not saying that he's a bad prospect. And I might be underrating him some. But, I just don't understand ranking him 8th and Yorman doesn't even make the cut.

[Baseball]

Best Hitter for Average: Yonder Alonso

Best Power Hitter: Neftali Soto

Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Yonder Alonso

Fastest Baserunner: Billy Hamilton

Best Athlete: Billy Hamilton

Best Fastball: Daniel Corcino

Best Curveball: J.C. Sulbaran

Best Slider: Tim Crabbe

Best Changeup: Daniel Renken

Best Control: Justice French

Best Defensive Catcher: Tucker Barnhart

Best Defensive Infielder: Didi Gregorius

Best Infield Arm: Didi Gregorius

Best Defensive Outfielder: Ryan LaMarre

Best Outfield Arm: Yorman Rodriguez

[Screwball]

Originally Posted by Baseball

Best Hitter for Average: Yonder Alonso

Best Power Hitter: Neftali Soto

Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Yonder Alonso

Fastest Baserunner: Billy Hamilton

Best Athlete: Billy Hamilton

Best Fastball: Daniel Corcino

Best Curveball: J.C. Sulbaran

Best Slider: Tim Crabbe

Best Changeup: Daniel Renken

Best Control: Justice French

Best Defensive Catcher: Tucker Barnhart

Best Defensive Infielder: Didi Gregorius

Best Infield Arm: Didi Gregorius

Best Defensive Outfielder: Ryan LaMarre

Best Outfield Arm: Yorman Rodriguez

#1 prospect Mesoraco nowhere to found.

[Outlaw133]

Mesaraco may in time live up to his billing, but his 2011 wasn't all that impressive, especially defensively. "Rookie nerves"?