Good to see some of our players "calling out" teammates on bonehead plays.....

[smixsell]

.....since Dusty WON'T EVER DO IT.

.....Cueto letting his anger at BP show for his failure to cover second quickly, spoiling an EASY double play

.....and I heard that Joey took a few teammates to task for not protecting him when he tried to catch a foul fly at our dugout area.


The team is actually starting to look like they WANT to COMPETE. It's a good thing there is some player leadership developing in this area, since Dusty is so neglectful there. If this keeps up we might actually have a chance of winning the division this year even with Dusty at the helm.

But then he might get an extension?!

Anyway, it's nice to see the Reds almost playing some proper baseball!

[Jr's Boy]

How do you protect someone trying to catch a foul ball?

[smixsell]

Protect them from falling down the dugout steps or doing a header over the dugout railing. Players are supposed to be ready to catch the fielder if they fall.

PS I heard it was Willie Harris and Hannigan who were asleep at the wheel.

[Stray]

Dusty might not slam his players through the media, but it's pretty silly to think he doesn't say stuff to them in private.

[dubc47834]

Originally Posted by Stray

Dusty might not slam his players through the media, but it's pretty silly to think he doesn't say stuff to them in private.

You are right, I remember in BP was always getting fines also for not running out plays and being laxidasical, is that even a word LOL. I just don't think Dusty doesn't slam them in the media. Approach me like a man, and not thru the TV!!!!

[smixsell]

Originally Posted by dubc47834

You are right, I remember in BP was always getting fines also for not running out plays and being laxidasical, is that even a word LOL. I just don't think Dusty doesn't slam them in the media. Approach me like a man, and not thru the TV!!!!

DUH. BP has still been making many those types of plays despite the many fines. That's the point of my post.

It's about time the guys who actually want to win badly enough to actually concentrate and play the game right for 9 innings (like Cueto and Votto) started "getting in peoples faces."

[dubc47834]

Originally Posted by smixsell

DUH. BP has still been making many those types of plays despite the many fines. That's the point of my post.

It's about time the guys who actually want to win badly enough to actually concentrate and play the game right for 9 innings (like Cueto and Votto) started "getting in peoples faces."

[kfm]

Originally Posted by Stray

Dusty might not slam his players through the media, but it's pretty silly to think he doesn't say stuff to them in private.

Wow, you speak the truth. It amazes me how the players manager label regarding Dusty has turned into this thing where Dusty does not want to say anything negative to his players or hurt their feelings. I have no idea what Dusty is like when none of us fans are around. The only thing I can use to educate myself on this topic is from statements from players. I have heard Griffey talk about how he was summoned to the principals office, interviews where Gomes talked about how Dusty gets on guys and will tell you things you don't want to hear but need to hear and numerous players on xm radio talk about how dusty gets on his players. We all heard about him yelling at them and calling them punks during a tirade after a sloppy embarrassing loss during the 2010 season. We did not hear this from Dusty but from the players. I will never understand why people need to see athletes berated publicly. I am a boss and when I need to say something to an employee I do it in private. I think that is the way we would all want to be treated. This never wants to hurt guys feelings, at least from what players have stated publicly is a creation of fans who don't like Dusty. Dusty does enough things to legitimately criticize him for, I don't get the need to make up more reasons.

[smixsell]

Whatever Dusty may be doing, it's sure not working, as we play crappy "loose baseball" even during our few winning streaks.

The only time we played decent baseball was 2010 when, if press reports are to be believed, Rolen and Cabrera went to great lengths to instill a "COMPETING WITH OUR OPPONENTS" vs. "PLAYING BASEBALL" mentality.

Those of you out there who don't even know what I'm talking about can just disregard the post. (I think you're beyond educating )

[joshua]

Originally Posted by kfm

Wow, you speak the truth. It amazes me how the players manager label regarding Dusty has turned into this thing where Dusty does not want to say anything negative to his players or hurt their feelings. I have no idea what Dusty is like when none of us fans are around. The only thing I can use to educate myself on this topic is from statements from players. I have heard Griffey talk about how he was summoned to the principals office, interviews where Gomes talked about how Dusty gets on guys and will tell you things you don't want to hear but need to hear and numerous players on xm radio talk about how dusty gets on his players. We all heard about him yelling at them and calling them punks during a tirade after a sloppy embarrassing loss during the 2010 season. We did not hear this from Dusty but from the players. I will never understand why people need to see athletes berated publicly. I am a boss and when I need to say something to an employee I do it in private. I think that is the way we would all want to be treated. This never wants to hurt guys feelings, at least from what players have stated publicly is a creation of fans who don't like Dusty. Dusty does enough things to legitimately criticize him for, I don't get the need to make up more reasons.

Exactly...although thinking of Dusty acting like R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket is awesome.

[texasdave]

If Baker was fining BP and lecturing him in private how did you hear about it? I am pretty sure Dusty spoke about that in John Fay's blog, in other words, in the media.

[smixsell]

Millionaires need to be held accountable by being benched and/or called out about it before the whole team. Fines are joke.

Dusty's tenure here has proven that he doesn't EVER do the former, and the team's constant repetition of boneheaded plays last year strongly suggests that he seldom, if ever, does the latter.

It's good to see the players taking matters into their own hands by "calling out" teamates.

[Stray]

I don't like it when managers/coaches in any sport throw players under the bus. Dusty's approach isn't unique, most guys do it the same way. I don't know how we can criticize how things are handled when we really don't even know how they're handled.

Also, we don't make a ton of bonehead plays or anything. We'll have stretches of bad baseball like anyone, but bonehead plays? I don't think so.

[smixsell]

Originally Posted by Stray

Also, we don't make a ton of bonehead plays or anything. We'll have stretches of bad baseball like anyone, but bonehead plays? I don't think so.

Wow. You either don't know baseball or haven't watched many Reds games the past 3 years.

[Tadasimha]

Originally Posted by Stray

Also, we don't make a ton of bonehead plays or anything. We'll have stretches of bad baseball like anyone, but bonehead plays? I don't think so.

Originally Posted by smixsell

Wow. You either don't know baseball or haven't watched many Reds games the past 3 years.

2011 Team Errors: 91 (7th in MLB)
2010 Team Errors: 72 (3rd in MLB)
2009 Team Errors: 89 (12th in MLB)

How many games have you watched in the past 3 years?