Interesting reds/cards article at ESPN.... - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

_Sir_Charles_ · 11-16-2012, 04:40 PM

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/86...yoff-disasters

MikeS21 · 11-16-2012, 04:47 PM

Evidently, Drew Stubbs has taken a hitting instructor home with him for the winter to work on his approach at the plate.

mattfeet · 11-16-2012, 04:48 PM

Good article, thanks for sharing.

corkedbat · 11-16-2012, 06:53 PM

Find a lefty to platoon with Stubbs, hope he can hit .240 with a .320 OBP and "sell high".

Spitball · 11-16-2012, 10:53 PM

Thanks for sharing, Charles.

I hope the Reds kick the tires on Crisp. He would be a decent platoon option with Stubbs.

traderumor · 11-17-2012, 02:51 PM

Crisp is underwhelming and not worth the talent that Oakland would probably want back. He's a big meh with signs of decline. I'd look elsewhere. Span is a better option if he's available at the right price.

mdccclxix · 11-30-2012, 11:50 AM

This article was great, sorry I missed it weeks ago.

MikeThierry · 11-30-2012, 12:07 PM

Really good article. As a Cardinals fan, I think the disaster of this playoffs was kind of muted a bit considering that they won it all the year before. There's a good reason that an NL team hasn't won back to back championships since those great Big Red Machine teams. It's very, very, very hard to do.

The other thing about it is that what happened the final 3 games of the series between the Giants seemed to be a microcosm of the 2012 season for the Cardinals. They were too inconsistent most of the year and it showed up in those three games.

The article is correct in saying the Cardinals have a wealth of starting pitching and I think they are pretty much set for next year. My advice (not that John Mozeliak is spying on the RedsZone) is for the love of god don't overthink the bullpen next year. Don't go for dumpster dive projects like they tend to do during the offseason. Leave Trevor Rosenthal in the pen as that 6th inning guy. It was a black hole inning for the Cards last year and leaving essentially a right handed version of Chapman in that spot will go a long way to winning for games for them next year.

11-16-2012, 04:40 PM	#1
_Sir_Charles_ 2013 NL MVP and WS MVP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,409	Interesting reds/cards article at ESPN.... http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/86...yoff-disasters __________________ “If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant’s life, she will choose to save the infant’s life without even considering if there is a man on base.” —Dave Barry

11-16-2012, 04:47 PM	#2
MikeS21 Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,653	Re: Interesting reds/cards article at ESPN.... Evidently, Drew Stubbs has taken a hitting instructor home with him for the winter to work on his approach at the plate. __________________ Opinions are like belly buttons. Everybody has one, and they don't want someone else's shoved into their face.

11-16-2012, 04:48 PM	#3
mattfeet Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,382	Re: Interesting reds/cards article at ESPN.... Good article, thanks for sharing.

11-16-2012, 06:53 PM	#4
corkedbat Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lexington Posts: 4,952	Re: Interesting reds/cards article at ESPN.... Find a lefty to platoon with Stubbs, hope he can hit .240 with a .320 OBP and "sell high".

11-16-2012, 10:53 PM	#5
Spitball Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 5,493	Re: Interesting reds/cards article at ESPN.... Thanks for sharing, Charles. I hope the Reds kick the tires on Crisp. He would be a decent platoon option with Stubbs. __________________ "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."- Noam Chomsky

11-17-2012, 02:51 PM	#6
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,666	Re: Interesting reds/cards article at ESPN.... Crisp is underwhelming and not worth the talent that Oakland would probably want back. He's a big meh with signs of decline. I'd look elsewhere. Span is a better option if he's available at the right price. __________________ Can't win with 'em Can't win without 'em

11-30-2012, 11:50 AM	#7
mdccclxix Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,661	Re: Interesting reds/cards article at ESPN.... This article was great, sorry I missed it weeks ago.

11-30-2012, 12:07 PM	#8
MikeThierry Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: St. Louis, Mo Posts: 3,135	Re: Interesting reds/cards article at ESPN.... Really good article. As a Cardinals fan, I think the disaster of this playoffs was kind of muted a bit considering that they won it all the year before. There's a good reason that an NL team hasn't won back to back championships since those great Big Red Machine teams. It's very, very, very hard to do. The other thing about it is that what happened the final 3 games of the series between the Giants seemed to be a microcosm of the 2012 season for the Cardinals. They were too inconsistent most of the year and it showed up in those three games. The article is correct in saying the Cardinals have a wealth of starting pitching and I think they are pretty much set for next year. My advice (not that John Mozeliak is spying on the RedsZone) is for the love of god don't overthink the bullpen next year. Don't go for dumpster dive projects like they tend to do during the offseason. Leave Trevor Rosenthal in the pen as that 6th inning guy. It was a black hole inning for the Cards last year and leaving essentially a right handed version of Chapman in that spot will go a long way to winning for games for them next year. __________________ “Our next home stand follows this road trip.” “I just want to tell everyone Happy Easter and Happy Hanukkah.” says on the day before Easter Mike Shannon

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