Reds Sign Jonathan Broxton- 3 Years, $21m; 4th Year option

[mdccclxix]

Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 26 at 2:30pm CST]

The Reds are in serious talks about a deal for free agent reliever Jonathan Broxton, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (Twitter link). The sides are expected to reach a multiyear contract if they agree to a deal.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#HpVO3Mc8JcCtQp5r.99

[mdccclxix]

I'm guessing 4 years, 38 million, with a 4th year buyout.

[mattfeet]

Originally Posted by mdccclxix

I'm guessing 4 years, 38 million, with a 4th year buyout.

Whoa, for real? That seems steep, but all along people have been saying that he's a hot commodity this year. It'd be nice to get him back and hopefully on a decent deal.

-Matt

[mdccclxix]

Originally Posted by mattfeet

Whoa, for real? That seems steep, but all along people have been saying that he's a hot commodity this year. It'd be nice to get him back and hopefully on a decent deal.

-Matt

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too, lot's of interest was indicated. He is young still. I'd prefer not to see something like that, though.

[WildcatFan]

Originally Posted by mdccclxix

I'm guessing 4 years, 38 million, with a 4th year buyout.

That seems like way too much for him. We're not far removed from the Cordero contract, and we know how that worked out.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Originally Posted by WildcatFan

That seems like way too much for him. We're not far removed from the Cordero contract, and we know how that worked out.

Yeah we do. 1 poor season IMO. He stabilized the bullpen for the duration of his contract. Sure, he was frustrating at times, but overall he was pretty darned good during his tenure here. I might be in the minority in that though.

[PuffyPig]

Originally Posted by WildcatFan

That seems like way too much for him. We're not far removed from the Cordero contract, and we know how that worked out.

For everything said about Cordero's contract, he had a decent save percentage with us and made our bullpen very strong.

Sure we overpaid for that, but other UFA's weren't lining up to play for us.

And when he left and eventually became Houston's closer he promptly blew consecutive saves to us.

We've had worse deals than Cordero.

[REDREAD]

Originally Posted by WildcatFan

That seems like way too much for him. We're not far removed from the Cordero contract, and we know how that worked out.

That's a fair point, but I think Cordero was something like 4 years, 48 million?
(Or in that ballpark) Cordero was also older and a candidate for a decline.

Broxton is only 28, and really looked great as a Red.

The Reds are going to have to add a reliever in order to move Chapman to the rotation. Even if they wanted Hoover to close, they'd still need to add at least one more reliever. Why not get arguably the best FA reliever available (as opposed to trying to get lucky with a rehab or waiver wire pickup).. I trust Walt will not overpay. He's no dummy and is not going to cripple the team. I think the Reds have more money that we think they do.

In hindsight, Cordero was overpaid but he did a great job stabilizing the bullpen. It's a valid criticism that the Reds went one year (or maybe two years) too long on him.

[WildcatFan]

Originally Posted by REDREAD

That's a fair point, but I think Cordero was something like 4 years, 48 million?
(Or in that ballpark) Cordero was also older and a candidate for a decline.

Broxton is only 28, and really looked great as a Red.

The Reds are going to have to add a reliever in order to move Chapman to the rotation. Even if they wanted Hoover to close, they'd still need to add at least one more reliever. Why not get arguably the best FA reliever available (as opposed to trying to get lucky with a rehab or waiver wire pickup).. I trust Walt will not overpay. He's no dummy and is not going to cripple the team. I think the Reds have more money that we think they do.

In hindsight, Cordero was overpaid but he did a great job stabilizing the bullpen. It's a valid criticism that the Reds went one year (or maybe two years) too long on him.

I can get on board with this point.

My gripe with Cordero was the money, not the years. And you're right that he was due for a decline, and I'm reading similar stuff on Broxton, with his dipping velocity and K rates. But if they can keep it under something like 3/22, I'll tip my cap and trust it'll work out.

[REDREAD]

Originally Posted by WildcatFan

I can get on board with this point.

My gripe with Cordero was the money, not the years. And you're right that he was due for a decline, and I'm reading similar stuff on Broxton, with his dipping velocity and K rates. But if they can keep it under something like 3/22, I'll tip my cap and trust it'll work out.

I agree, Cordero was overpaid. No question about it. At least he did the job though most of the time.

Like Mth said, I'd much rather spend money on Broxton than an injury rehab guy like Madson.. The analogy is kind of like Cordero worked out a lot better than Stanton did. Cordero was a lot more expensive, but at least he produced reasonably well. Stanton had negative value.

[marcshoe]

Wrong thread.

[RedsManRick]

Ken Rosenthal
Sources: Broxton deal with #Reds expected to be for three years.

I'm guessing 3/24: 6/8/10.

[M2]

Originally Posted by RedsManRick

I'm guessing 3/24: 6/8/10.

Sounds about right. That would put him in the same neighborhood as the contract Brandon League just signed with the Dodgers.

The obvious concern is paying that much money to a guy who's that fat. Are his knees, ankles and back up to the contract?

[cincrazy]

Originally Posted by M2

Sounds about right. That would put him in the same neighborhood as the contract Brandon League just signed with the Dodgers.

The obvious concern is paying that much money to a guy who's that fat. Are his knees, ankles and back up to the contract?

He's not fat! Just big boned .

[M2]

Originally Posted by cincrazy

He's not fat! Just big boned .

Seems like he's both. Broxton could become the first pitcher to come out to the mound on a Segue.