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Brutus · 12-08-2012, 09:08 PM

For 6 years, over $140 million.

The Yankees have officially relocated to L.A. County.

_Sir_Charles_ · 12-08-2012, 09:11 PM

It's just freaking insane what they've spent over the past year. IN-SANE!

AmarilloRed · 12-08-2012, 09:19 PM

I was hoping hoping the Rangers would be able to get him. I imagine they'll go all out to get Hamilton now.

LegallyMinded · 12-08-2012, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AmarilloRed

I was hoping hoping the Rangers would be able to get him. I imagine they'll go all out to get Hamilton now.

I was thinking the same thing, but the Rangers are apparently still going after Upton. If the Rangers can pry him away from Arizona, that leaves Hamilton for a team like the Mariners, and leaves players like Swisher and Bourn still on the market. It seems like at least one high-profile outfielder is going to be left without a team when the music stops.

cincrazy · 12-08-2012, 09:25 PM

For all the money the Dodgers have spent, I still don't think they're the best team in the NL, or even their division for that matter. We'll see how Greinke handles the pressure of that huge contract. Crawford and Beckett are huge question marks, Adrian Gonzalez is in decline... sure, they're spending a lot of dough. But can't me as someone who says they're not spending it very wisely.

_Sir_Charles_ · 12-08-2012, 09:41 PM

It got me curious. Just since July of this year, the Dodgers have added....

Brandon League (Trade with M's)
Shane Victorino (Trade with Phils)
Hanley Ramirez
Randy Choate (Trade with Fish)
Adrian Gonzalez
Josh Beckett
Carl Crawford
Nick Punto (Trade with BoSox)

Resign League 22million/3years (could be 33.5/3 with incentives)
Won bidding on Hyun-Jin Ryu for 25.7 million (this was just to win the right to NEGOTIATE with him) They have until 4pm tomorrow to sign him or they just flushed the 25.7 million.
Sign Greinke for 147 million/6 years.

They had the highest payroll in the majors BEFORE they signed League & Greinke (and maybe Ryu)

As of sept 2012...

Dodgers, $193.8MM
Phillies, $133.1MM
Yankees, $119.1MM
Cardinals, $92.8MM
Angels, $92.3MM
Tigers, $90.2MM
Rangers, $84.4MM
White Sox, $83.3MM
Giants, $81.0MM
Reds, $74.1MM
Twins, $68.3MM
Marlins, $67.5MM
Blue Jays, $61.3MM
Nationals, $58.6MM
Diamondbacks, $55.0MM
Mets, $54.5MM
Orioles, $53.2MM
Brewers, $52.4MM
Rockies, $46.5MM
Red Sox, $45.6MM
Cubs, $41.8MM
Mariners, $40.5MM
Royals, $34.9MM
Pirates, $27.9MM
Padres, $26.0MM
Athletics, $23.0MM
Rays, $18.6MM
Braves, $15.2MM
Indians, $11MM
Astros, $5.5MM

Now tack on League, Greinke & Ryu. Good lord. Heck, they still owe 8.5 million a year to Ramirez. *rolls eyes*

dougdirt · 12-08-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

Won bidding on Hyun-Jin Ryu for 25.7 million (this was just to win the right to NEGOTIATE with him) They have until 4pm tomorrow to sign him or they just flushed the 25.7 million.

This isn't true. With Japanese teams it would be, but Ryu is from the Korean Leagues and they only get to keep the money if the player signs, otherwise it is returned.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ey...n-negotiations

_Sir_Charles_ · 12-09-2012, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougdirt

This isn't true. With Japanese teams it would be, but Ryu is from the Korean Leagues and they only get to keep the money if the player signs, otherwise it is returned.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ey...n-negotiations

Ah, thanks. I thought it was the same for both. Okay so now they're just very insane...not very, very insane.

blumj · 12-09-2012, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

Ah, thanks. I thought it was the same for both. Okay so now they're just very insane...not very, very insane.

Actually, it is the same, they don't pay the posting fee unless they sign the player.

Quote:

If the player does not sign a contract with the MLB team by the end of the signing period, the player is returned to the NPB team and the NPB team does not receive the bid money.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bu...Posting_System

_Sir_Charles_ · 12-09-2012, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blumj

Actually, it is the same, they don't pay the posting fee unless they sign the player.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bu...Posting_System

LOL. Well color me confused. :O) I could've swore I read somewhere that the big risk with those deals is that if you can't sign the guy you forfeit a ton of money. Oh well, thanks for the heads up.

kaldaniels · 12-09-2012, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

It got me curious. Just since July of this year, the Dodgers have added....

Brandon League (Trade with M's)
Shane Victorino (Trade with Phils)
Hanley Ramirez
Randy Choate (Trade with Fish)
Adrian Gonzalez
Josh Beckett
Carl Crawford
Nick Punto (Trade with BoSox)

Resign League 22million/3years (could be 33.5/3 with incentives)
Won bidding on Hyun-Jin Ryu for 25.7 million (this was just to win the right to NEGOTIATE with him) They have until 4pm tomorrow to sign him or they just flushed the 25.7 million.
Sign Greinke for 147 million/6 years.

They had the highest payroll in the majors BEFORE they signed League & Greinke (and maybe Ryu)

As of sept 2012...

Dodgers, $193.8MM
Phillies, $133.1MM
Yankees, $119.1MM
Cardinals, $92.8MM
Angels, $92.3MM
Tigers, $90.2MM
Rangers, $84.4MM
White Sox, $83.3MM
Giants, $81.0MM
Reds, $74.1MM
Twins, $68.3MM
Marlins, $67.5MM
Blue Jays, $61.3MM
Nationals, $58.6MM
Diamondbacks, $55.0MM
Mets, $54.5MM
Orioles, $53.2MM
Brewers, $52.4MM
Rockies, $46.5MM
Red Sox, $45.6MM
Cubs, $41.8MM
Mariners, $40.5MM
Royals, $34.9MM
Pirates, $27.9MM
Padres, $26.0MM
Athletics, $23.0MM
Rays, $18.6MM
Braves, $15.2MM
Indians, $11MM
Astros, $5.5MM

Now tack on League, Greinke & Ryu. Good lord. Heck, they still owe 8.5 million a year to Ramirez. *rolls eyes*

What exactly are those numbers listed? Braves at 15.2 MM?

_Sir_Charles_ · 12-09-2012, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaldaniels

What exactly are those numbers listed? Braves at 15.2 MM?

Salary committed to 2013 (as of september I believe)

From here. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...mmitments.html

kaldaniels · 12-10-2012, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

Salary committed to 2013 (as of september I believe)

From here. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...mmitments.html

Dan Uggla and Brian McCann combined will make well over the Braves 15 MM that is listed. Something seems off.

edit - I'm thinking it doesn't include the option years for McCann,Hudson,etc. Info is just out of date now that they have been exercised.

PuffyPig · 12-09-2012, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

Won bidding on Hyun-Jin Ryu for 25.7 million (this was just to win the right to NEGOTIATE with him) They have until 4pm tomorrow to sign him or they just flushed the 25.7 million.

If they don't sign him, they don't pay the posting fee.

757690 · 12-08-2012, 09:53 PM

And so it begins...

The Dodgers make $280M a year just from their TV deal.

To put that in perspective, the Dodgers could sign 10 more Grienke contracts and still not have to touch any of their other revenue streams, which are substantial.

Another way to look at it, the Dodgers could go $82M over the Luxary Tax threshold, and still not have to touch any of their other revenue streams. Nearly half of the MLB teams payrolls are less than $82M.

12-08-2012, 09:08 PM	#1
Brutus Et tu, Brutus? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 8,928	Greinke to the Dodgers For 6 years, over $140 million. The Yankees have officially relocated to L.A. County. __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

12-08-2012, 09:11 PM	#2
_Sir_Charles_ 2013 NL MVP and WS MVP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,359	Re: Greinke to the Dodgers It's just freaking insane what they've spent over the past year. IN-SANE! __________________

12-08-2012, 09:19 PM	#3
AmarilloRed Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Amarillo,Texas Posts: 3,997	Re: Greinke to the Dodgers I was hoping hoping the Rangers would be able to get him. I imagine they'll go all out to get Hamilton now.

12-08-2012, 09:25 PM	#5
cincrazy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 4,123	Re: Greinke to the Dodgers For all the money the Dodgers have spent, I still don't think they're the best team in the NL, or even their division for that matter. We'll see how Greinke handles the pressure of that huge contract. Crawford and Beckett are huge question marks, Adrian Gonzalez is in decline... sure, they're spending a lot of dough. But can't me as someone who says they're not spending it very wisely.

12-08-2012, 09:41 PM	#6
_Sir_Charles_ 2013 NL MVP and WS MVP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,359	Re: Greinke to the Dodgers It got me curious. Just since July of this year, the Dodgers have added.... Brandon League (Trade with M's) Shane Victorino (Trade with Phils) Hanley Ramirez Randy Choate (Trade with Fish) Adrian Gonzalez Josh Beckett Carl Crawford Nick Punto (Trade with BoSox) Resign League 22million/3years (could be 33.5/3 with incentives) Won bidding on Hyun-Jin Ryu for 25.7 million (this was just to win the right to NEGOTIATE with him) They have until 4pm tomorrow to sign him or they just flushed the 25.7 million. Sign Greinke for 147 million/6 years. They had the highest payroll in the majors BEFORE they signed League & Greinke (and maybe Ryu) As of sept 2012... Dodgers, $193.8MM Phillies, $133.1MM Yankees, $119.1MM Cardinals, $92.8MM Angels, $92.3MM Tigers, $90.2MM Rangers, $84.4MM White Sox, $83.3MM Giants, $81.0MM Reds, $74.1MM Twins, $68.3MM Marlins, $67.5MM Blue Jays, $61.3MM Nationals, $58.6MM Diamondbacks, $55.0MM Mets, $54.5MM Orioles, $53.2MM Brewers, $52.4MM Rockies, $46.5MM Red Sox, $45.6MM Cubs, $41.8MM Mariners, $40.5MM Royals, $34.9MM Pirates, $27.9MM Padres, $26.0MM Athletics, $23.0MM Rays, $18.6MM Braves, $15.2MM Indians, $11MM Astros, $5.5MM Now tack on League, Greinke & Ryu. Good lord. Heck, they still owe 8.5 million a year to Ramirez. rolls eyes __________________ Last edited by _Sir_Charles_; 12-08-2012 at 09:44 PM.

12-08-2012, 09:53 PM	#15
757690 Hoping to be 75769013 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dayton Posts: 6,095	Re: Greinke to the Dodgers And so it begins... The Dodgers make $280M a year just from their TV deal. To put that in perspective, the Dodgers could sign 10 more Grienke contracts and still not have to touch any of their other revenue streams, which are substantial. Another way to look at it, the Dodgers could go $82M over the Luxary Tax threshold, and still not have to touch any of their other revenue streams. Nearly half of the MLB teams payrolls are less than $82M. __________________ We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. - Albert Einstein

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