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Benihana · 06-21-2006, 11:05 AM

Phil Dumatrait?

I know he was just promoted to AAA a few weeks ago, but he's done well there so far. I would give him a couple more starts in Louisville and then assuming Joe Mays is not the answer, let him have his shot after the all star break. I know he is still young, but not as young as Homer or any of the others, and worst case scenario it would be better than bringing up (and ruining) any of the youngsters.

cumberlandreds · 06-21-2006, 11:33 AM

I posted this in the minor league forum yesterday. I think they should give him a shot. He can't be any worse than what we have thrown out there in the 5th spot so far this season.

Danny Serafini · 06-21-2006, 11:35 AM

I'd like to see him get a little more AAA experience, but as long as he performs I've got no problem with bringing him up a little later in the season.

TOBTTReds · 06-21-2006, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Serafini

I'd like to see him get a little more AAA experience, but as long as he performs I've got no problem with bringing him up a little later in the season.

I agree 100%

dougdirt · 06-21-2006, 12:37 PM

If they want to stick with Joe Mays as a #5(please kill me), bring him up and put him in the bullpen. He is better than some of the guys in there now.

HotCorner · 06-21-2006, 01:25 PM

I'd like to see him brought up in a relief role to ease him into the bigs.

Krusty · 06-21-2006, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benihana

Phil Dumatrait?

I know he was just promoted to AAA a few weeks ago, but he's done well there so far. I would give him a couple more starts in Louisville and then assuming Joe Mays is not the answer, let him have his shot after the all star break. I know he is still young, but not as young as Homer or any of the others, and worst case scenario it would be better than bringing up (and ruining) any of the youngsters.

If Mays struggles and Dumatrait continues to have success at Louisville, I don't know how Krivsky can justify not promoting him to the majors unless he has a deal in the works to bring a starter via trade.

Rojo · 06-21-2006, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2844

I'd like to see him brought up in a relief role to ease him into the bigs.

Yep! Earl Weaver-style. He can take Hammond's spot.

PuffyPig · 06-21-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rojo

Yep! Earl Weaver-style. He can take Hammond's spot.

Hammonds has a DERA in the 3's, at 3.91. And that's with his slow start. Only Cofffey at 3.55 is better on the Reds. Hammonds is not the problem.

Strikes Out Looking · 06-21-2006, 02:19 PM

The Reds are not going to rush to promote any of the prospects in the minors until they are forced to. While they would, most likely, be an improvement over the dreck at the big league level, promoting them now starts the tolling of major league service--they will then be eligible for arbitration sooner, and if they are successful, they will be more expensive at an earlier date.

While I may or may not agree with this, I believe this is the reason they haven't promoted any of the prospects at this point.

Of course, we all remember when they did promote a bunch of youngsters a couple years back very quickly and most of them flamed out quickly and aren't even in the Reds Farm System or big leagues anymore, so service time isn't an issue with the likes of Reith, Davis or even Wagner for that matter.

KronoRed · 06-21-2006, 03:05 PM

I thought he got smashed the other night in AAA?

oneupper · 06-21-2006, 05:11 PM

If Burns wouldn't have been creamed in the 10 innings he's pitched in the bigs this year, based on his AAA record, we'd all be clamoring to bring him up.

deltachi8 · 06-21-2006, 08:10 PM

Code:

W 	L 	ERA 	G 	GS 	CG 	SHO 	SV 	IP 	H 	R 	ER 	HR 	HB 	BB 	SO 	WHIP 	HLD 	GF
2	2	3.28	4	4	1	0	0	24.2	28	10	9	3	0	3	16	 1.26	0	0

Not bad #s after a bad first start

Rojo · 06-21-2006, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Hammonds has a DERA in the 3's, at 3.91. And that's with his slow start. Only Cofffey at 3.55 is better on the Reds. Hammonds is not the problem.

What's his DERA now?

wheels · 06-22-2006, 12:18 AM

I love his K/BB ratio.

Stick him in the pen for now, and see what happens.

06-21-2006, 11:05 AM	#1
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,428	Maybe the Reds should promote... Phil Dumatrait? I know he was just promoted to AAA a few weeks ago, but he's done well there so far. I would give him a couple more starts in Louisville and then assuming Joe Mays is not the answer, let him have his shot after the all star break. I know he is still young, but not as young as Homer or any of the others, and worst case scenario it would be better than bringing up (and ruining) any of the youngsters. __________________ Go BLUE!!!

06-21-2006, 11:33 AM	#2
cumberlandreds Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sterling VA Posts: 7,858	Re: Maybe the Reds should promote... I posted this in the minor league forum yesterday. I think they should give him a shot. He can't be any worse than what we have thrown out there in the 5th spot so far this season. __________________ Reds Fan Since 1971

06-21-2006, 11:35 AM	#3
Danny Serafini 15 game winner Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sultanes de Monterrey Posts: 4,172	Re: Maybe the Reds should promote... I'd like to see him get a little more AAA experience, but as long as he performs I've got no problem with bringing him up a little later in the season.

06-21-2006, 01:25 PM	#6
HotCorner Big League Choo! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The 513 Posts: 2,157	Re: Maybe the Reds should promote... I'd like to see him brought up in a relief role to ease him into the bigs. __________________ YouTube - Randy Pausch Last Lecture: Achieving Your Childhood Dreams Baseball Stars Rocks!

06-21-2006, 02:19 PM	#10
Strikes Out Looking Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,267	Re: Maybe the Reds should promote... The Reds are not going to rush to promote any of the prospects in the minors until they are forced to. While they would, most likely, be an improvement over the dreck at the big league level, promoting them now starts the tolling of major league service--they will then be eligible for arbitration sooner, and if they are successful, they will be more expensive at an earlier date. While I may or may not agree with this, I believe this is the reason they haven't promoted any of the prospects at this point. Of course, we all remember when they did promote a bunch of youngsters a couple years back very quickly and most of them flamed out quickly and aren't even in the Reds Farm System or big leagues anymore, so service time isn't an issue with the likes of Reith, Davis or even Wagner for that matter. __________________ The Future Is Now!

06-21-2006, 12:37 PM	#5
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,742	Re: Maybe the Reds should promote... If they want to stick with Joe Mays as a #5(please kill me), bring him up and put him in the bullpen. He is better than some of the guys in there now. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

06-21-2006, 03:05 PM	#11
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,343	Re: Maybe the Reds should promote... I thought he got smashed the other night in AAA? __________________ Go Gators!

06-21-2006, 05:11 PM	#12
oneupper Danger is my business! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Back in Florida Posts: 7,855	Re: Maybe the Reds should promote... If Burns wouldn't have been creamed in the 10 innings he's pitched in the bigs this year, based on his AAA record, we'd all be clamoring to bring him up. __________________ "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." http://dalmady.blogspot.com

06-21-2006, 08:10 PM	#13
deltachi8 smells of rich mahogany Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,001	Re: Maybe the Reds should promote... Code: W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR HB BB SO WHIP HLD GF 2 2 3.28 4 4 1 0 0 24.2 28 10 9 3 0 3 16 1.26 0 0 Not bad #s after a bad first start __________________ Nothing to see here. Please disperse.

06-22-2006, 12:18 AM	#15
wheels Dented and Spent Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,539	Re: Maybe the Reds should promote... I love his K/BB ratio. Stick him in the pen for now, and see what happens. __________________ "Opening Day.... Pfffft! We get all excited, thinking they're gonna have some kinda great year....Same thing over and over. Disappointment. What time do you want me to come over?" - My Dad. Opening Day 2012.

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