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BEETTLEBUG · 10-30-2006, 07:24 PM

I know he had a bad year this past year even when he went to his friend Orioles pitching coach. Would he be BIG risk or could he be resurrected again?

Degenerate39 · 10-30-2006, 07:50 PM

I don't know honestly. He's had a bad two years but every other year he's played I think he's looked pretty good. Since he's been so ****ty going 0-8 last year I'd say we could get him cheap.

dougflynn23 · 10-30-2006, 07:54 PM

I want the Reds to be a real baseball team and not have to pick up garbage that nobody wants anymore. Russ Ortiz is garbage. Bury that idea, and bury the shovel with it.

Patrick Bateman · 10-30-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by degenerate10

I don't know honestly. He's had a bad two years but every other year he's played I think he's looked pretty good. Since he's been so ****ty going 0-8 last year I'd say we could get him cheap.

We could get him for nothing. He's been considerably worse than Milton the last 2 seasons. That's a bad trend developing.

I want to no part of him, even for nothing.

11BarryLarkin11 · 10-30-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Kearns

We could get him for nothing. He's been considerably worse than Milton the last 2 seasons. That's a bad trend developing.

I want to no part of him, even for nothing.

I'd have to agree. I think Ortiz just walks too many hitters be an effective big league pitcher. In 2005, he had a BB/9 of 5.1 and in 2006 it was 5.7. On his career, he's walked 4.7 BB/9, which is really not good.

I hope we can set our sights a bit higher than Russ, as I have no confidence in the Reds being able to resurrect a pitcher that even Leo couldn't help.

Will M · 10-30-2006, 08:07 PM

no

Topcat · 10-30-2006, 08:23 PM

I pass on Russ and there was a time in his San Fran days, when I thought he was going to be a star.

Tom Servo · 10-30-2006, 09:18 PM

I misread the topic title and thought it said Ramon Ortiz. I thought that was bad, until I realized it actually said Russ Ortiz and realized it was even worse.

BEETTLEBUG · 10-30-2006, 11:28 PM

Thanks I Was Just Asking.

TeamSelig · 10-30-2006, 11:53 PM

Couldn't hurt to give him a ST invite. Bullpen conversion? Probably not, but a MLC wouldn't disappoint me.

MartyFan · 10-31-2006, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dougflynn23

I want the Reds to be a real baseball team and not have to pick up garbage that nobody wants anymore. Russ Ortiz is garbage. Bury that idea, and bury the shovel with it.

Like Eckstien? Lugo? Frank Thomas? Aurillia?

just saying there are always players that nobody wants anymore who surprise people over the season.

Though I agree, Ortiz is nobody I want to see in a Reds Uni.

redsupport · 10-31-2006, 01:39 AM

not half as good as the the other ortiz who was already jettisoned

Redsnake · 10-31-2006, 08:12 AM

At first I was thinking NO! But the Reds need to find those cheap players that could be sleepers. The Reds took chances on players like Ron Gant, Paul Wilson, Aurilla, etc. and it paid off.
If the Reds can't afford or refuse to go after a Zito, Schmidt type player, then I'm all for a base salary minor league deal for a player that once was good. I say it's worth a try.

maniem · 10-31-2006, 10:00 AM

[QUOTE]We could get him for nothing. He's been considerably worse than Milton the last 2 seasons. That's a bad trend developing.

I want to no part of him, even for nothing.[QUOTE]

My thoughts exactly. The D-Backs signing of Russ Ortiz is the only one that could made the Milton signing look halfway respectable. That has to be one of the worst contracts the D-Backs have ever given.

savafan · 10-31-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by maniem

My thoughts exactly. The D-Backs signing of Russ Ortiz is the only one that could made the Milton signing look halfway respectable. That has to be one of the worst contracts the D-Backs have ever given.

You forget the Rockies signing of Mike Hampton.

10-30-2006, 07:24 PM	#1
BEETTLEBUG Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WEST CARROLLTON OHIO Posts: 1,227	Russ Ortiz I know he had a bad year this past year even when he went to his friend Orioles pitching coach. Would he be BIG risk or could he be resurrected again?

10-30-2006, 07:50 PM	#2
Degenerate39 Senor Votto Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,847	Re: Russ Ortiz I don't know honestly. He's had a bad two years but every other year he's played I think he's looked pretty good. Since he's been so ****ty going 0-8 last year I'd say we could get him cheap.

10-30-2006, 07:54 PM	#3
dougflynn23 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 725	Re: Russ Ortiz I want the Reds to be a real baseball team and not have to pick up garbage that nobody wants anymore. Russ Ortiz is garbage. Bury that idea, and bury the shovel with it.

10-30-2006, 08:07 PM	#6
Will M Brett William Moore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Crescent Springs KY Posts: 3,511	Russ Ortiz no

10-30-2006, 08:23 PM	#7
Topcat Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,928	Re: Russ Ortiz I pass on Russ and there was a time in his San Fran days, when I thought he was going to be a star. __________________ 2006 Redzone mock Draftee's- 1(st) Daniel Bard(redsox), 1(st sup)( Jordan Walden (Angels), 2(nd) rd.- Zach Britton(Orioles), 3(rd) Blair Erickson(Cardinals), 3(rd) Tim Norton( Yankees),(cuz its a Tim Hortons thing Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.

10-30-2006, 09:18 PM	#8
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,422	Re: Russ Ortiz I misread the topic title and thought it said Ramon Ortiz. I thought that was bad, until I realized it actually said Russ Ortiz and realized it was even worse.

10-30-2006, 11:28 PM	#9
BEETTLEBUG Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WEST CARROLLTON OHIO Posts: 1,227	Re: Russ Ortiz Thanks I Was Just Asking.

10-30-2006, 11:53 PM	#10
TeamSelig Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,727	Re: Russ Ortiz Couldn't hurt to give him a ST invite. Bullpen conversion? Probably not, but a MLC wouldn't disappoint me.

10-31-2006, 01:39 AM	#12
redsupport Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,783	Re: Russ Ortiz not half as good as the the other ortiz who was already jettisoned

10-31-2006, 08:12 AM	#13
Redsnake Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 389	Re: Russ Ortiz At first I was thinking NO! But the Reds need to find those cheap players that could be sleepers. The Reds took chances on players like Ron Gant, Paul Wilson, Aurilla, etc. and it paid off. If the Reds can't afford or refuse to go after a Zito, Schmidt type player, then I'm all for a base salary minor league deal for a player that once was good. I say it's worth a try.

10-31-2006, 10:00 AM	#14
maniem Marty Moose!! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Carmel, IN Posts: 194	Re: Russ Ortiz [QUOTE]We could get him for nothing. He's been considerably worse than Milton the last 2 seasons. That's a bad trend developing. I want to no part of him, even for nothing.[QUOTE] My thoughts exactly. The D-Backs signing of Russ Ortiz is the only one that could made the Milton signing look halfway respectable. That has to be one of the worst contracts the D-Backs have ever given.

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