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VI_RedsFan · 12-19-2006, 04:33 PM

Here are 3 moves I'd like to see Krivsky make. Me and my brother were thinking about these today (I should credit that two of them were his idea), and I believe that they could improve our team.

Sign Jeff Suppan to a 3 year deal worth $30 million to be our #3 starter

Sign Eduardo Perez to a 1 year deal worth $1 million to platoon 1B with Hatteberg

Trade Adam Dunn to the Dodgers for Chad Billingsley and Andre Ethier

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This gives us a lineup of:

Versus righties:
CF Denorfia/Freel
1B Hatteberg
RF Griffey
3B Encarnacion
LF Ethier
C Ross
2B Phillips
SS Gonzalez

Versus lefties:
CF Denorfia/Freel
2B Phillips
RF Griffey
3B Encarnacion
LF Ethier
1B Perez
C Ross
SS Gonzalez

And a rotation of:

Harang (Sign to a LTC of 4 years $39 million)
Arroyo
Suppan
Lohse/Billingsley
Milton

So, what do you think?

redsmetz · 12-19-2006, 04:38 PM

Oy Vey! Always with the "trade Adam Dunn"

Puffy · 12-19-2006, 04:48 PM

Jeff Suppan - blech.

DannyB · 12-19-2006, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

Jeff Suppan - blech.

Platoon players-blech

redsmetz · 12-19-2006, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

Jeff Suppan - blech.

Strike Two!

But Perez could be a nice two strike infield hit

dunner13 · 12-19-2006, 05:10 PM

Suppan wants more than meche got because hes better. So figure 4 yrs at 12 mill at least to get him to come to cincy. That would pretty much be worse then the milton signing. And I'd rather have kemp then either.

TOBTTReds · 12-19-2006, 05:18 PM

Look at this deal in the eyes of the Dodgers, they probably wouldn't give up CB for Dunn straight up.

No on Suppan.

I'll take Perez. (power of tradition right?)

Buckeye33 · 12-19-2006, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AvesIce51

Look at this deal in the eyes of the Dodgers, they probably wouldn't give up CB for Dunn straight up.

No on Suppan.

I'll take Perez. (power of tradition right?)

And that would be quite stupid of them. I understand that young pitching is valuable, but to say that the Dodgers (a huge market, win now team) would not trade Billingsley for Dunn straight up is pretty dumb.

KoryMac5 · 12-19-2006, 05:35 PM

Billingsley's 58 walks in 90 innings pitched would have me on the edge of my seat every time he pitched.

Handofdeath · 12-19-2006, 06:14 PM

I would sign Jerome Williams, Trot Nixon, Craig Wilson and take a flyer on this young OF who has shown some promise in the minors as a hitter. Name? Rick Ankiel.

edabbs44 · 12-19-2006, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsmetz

Oy Vey! Always with the "trade Adam Dunn"

God forbid.

RedLegSuperStar · 12-19-2006, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handofdeath

I would sign Jerome Williams, Trot Nixon, Craig Wilson and take a flyer on this young OF who has shown some promise in the minors as a hitter. Name? Rick Ankiel.

Not Rick Ankiel.. grrr. I would of perfered Jose Cruz Jr... but the blasted Pads picked him up for under 1 mil.

Everything else I am down with and like.

Z-Fly · 12-19-2006, 07:51 PM

Is it just it me, or are the Dodgers pitching prospect always over hyped? As usual I have not researched this, but I remember a few hot pitching prospects a few years back that never panned out.

schroomytunes · 12-19-2006, 08:05 PM

2 words-AH NO!

No way do I trade Dunn in the offseason, his value is very low right now and we would be basically giving him away, wait till the deadline, packages are always better when teams are in the playoff hunt. As far as your offseason acquistions, I like Perez as the platoon guy, but no way do I sign Suppan for 10 million. I think in reality we will sign one more guy in the offseason, and we will be active in the trade market so here is my 3 moves to make, fire away if ou don't like.

1)Sign Shea Hillenbrand to play 1st base- this relegates Hatteberg to a platoon/bench player where he strengthens the overall bench. Hillenbrand then bats 5-6 in the order and drives in @80 RBI'S. We then let Votto have a full year in AAA, and he replaces Hatteberg in 08.

2)Trade Ryan Freel and Rheal Cormier to the Rangers- the Rangers are in need of bullpen help as well as OF depth, and these guys are pretty cheap players to fill those spots. We in exchange get CJ Wilson lefty reliever and prospect Jason Botts OF/1b.

3)Sign a veteran OF, who is coming off of a down year in hopes that he can regain some of his former self and then be able to flip him for prospects come the July trade deadline, cause we are going to need 4 outfielders cause we cant expect Griffey to play more than 120 games. Guys that fit this role are:
(Preston Wilson, Trot Nixon, and yes Rick Ankiel)

Thoughts?

Cardinal_Fan · 12-19-2006, 08:37 PM

Suppan got hot at just the right time last year for us. But look at this stats for the first half...they are not very good at all. The guy is too old to give an extended contract to. I dont think he is worth more than 8 million a year, but on this market that translates to 12-13 for 4 years. Suppan is just not worth that much money over 4 years. It would be a mistake for any team to sign him for that amount of money for that long!

12-19-2006, 04:33 PM	#1
VI_RedsFan Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 721	3 Moves Krivsky Should Make Here are 3 moves I'd like to see Krivsky make. Me and my brother were thinking about these today (I should credit that two of them were his idea), and I believe that they could improve our team. Sign Jeff Suppan to a 3 year deal worth $30 million to be our #3 starter Sign Eduardo Perez to a 1 year deal worth $1 million to platoon 1B with Hatteberg Trade Adam Dunn to the Dodgers for Chad Billingsley and Andre Ethier --------------- This gives us a lineup of: Versus righties: CF Denorfia/Freel 1B Hatteberg RF Griffey 3B Encarnacion LF Ethier C Ross 2B Phillips SS Gonzalez Versus lefties: CF Denorfia/Freel 2B Phillips RF Griffey 3B Encarnacion LF Ethier 1B Perez C Ross SS Gonzalez And a rotation of: Harang (Sign to a LTC of 4 years $39 million) Arroyo Suppan Lohse/Billingsley Milton So, what do you think? __________________ "Pam, I am public speaking...stop public interrupting me." -Michael Scott, "The Office" "His capa was detated from his head!" -Michael Scott on the death of his former boss, Ed Truck, "The Office"

12-19-2006, 04:38 PM	#2
redsmetz Redsmetz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winton Place Posts: 10,451	Re: 3 Moves Krivsky Should Make Oy Vey! Always with the "trade Adam Dunn"

12-19-2006, 05:10 PM	#6
dunner13 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 589	Re: 3 Moves Krivsky Should Make Suppan wants more than meche got because hes better. So figure 4 yrs at 12 mill at least to get him to come to cincy. That would pretty much be worse then the milton signing. And I'd rather have kemp then either.

12-19-2006, 05:18 PM	#7
TOBTTReds Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3,667	Re: 3 Moves Krivsky Should Make Look at this deal in the eyes of the Dodgers, they probably wouldn't give up CB for Dunn straight up. No on Suppan. I'll take Perez. (power of tradition right?)

12-19-2006, 05:35 PM	#9
KoryMac5 Kmac5 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waterloo, NY Posts: 3,661	Re: 3 Moves Krivsky Should Make Billingsley's 58 walks in 90 innings pitched would have me on the edge of my seat every time he pitched.

12-19-2006, 04:48 PM	#3
Puffy Puffy 3:16 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 13,669	Re: 3 Moves Krivsky Should Make Jeff Suppan - blech. __________________ "I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum." - - Rowdy Roddy Piper "It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man" - - Fletch

12-19-2006, 06:14 PM	#10
Handofdeath Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 1,361	Re: 3 Moves Krivsky Should Make I would sign Jerome Williams, Trot Nixon, Craig Wilson and take a flyer on this young OF who has shown some promise in the minors as a hitter. Name? Rick Ankiel.

12-19-2006, 07:51 PM	#13
Z-Fly Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 414	Re: 3 Moves Krivsky Should Make Is it just it me, or are the Dodgers pitching prospect always over hyped? As usual I have not researched this, but I remember a few hot pitching prospects a few years back that never panned out. __________________ WHEN DOES IT STOP!?!?

12-19-2006, 08:05 PM	#14
schroomytunes Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: wilmington n.c. Posts: 928	Re: 3 Moves Krivsky Should Make 2 words-AH NO! No way do I trade Dunn in the offseason, his value is very low right now and we would be basically giving him away, wait till the deadline, packages are always better when teams are in the playoff hunt. As far as your offseason acquistions, I like Perez as the platoon guy, but no way do I sign Suppan for 10 million. I think in reality we will sign one more guy in the offseason, and we will be active in the trade market so here is my 3 moves to make, fire away if ou don't like. 1)Sign Shea Hillenbrand to play 1st base- this relegates Hatteberg to a platoon/bench player where he strengthens the overall bench. Hillenbrand then bats 5-6 in the order and drives in @80 RBI'S. We then let Votto have a full year in AAA, and he replaces Hatteberg in 08. 2)Trade Ryan Freel and Rheal Cormier to the Rangers- the Rangers are in need of bullpen help as well as OF depth, and these guys are pretty cheap players to fill those spots. We in exchange get CJ Wilson lefty reliever and prospect Jason Botts OF/1b. 3)Sign a veteran OF, who is coming off of a down year in hopes that he can regain some of his former self and then be able to flip him for prospects come the July trade deadline, cause we are going to need 4 outfielders cause we cant expect Griffey to play more than 120 games. Guys that fit this role are: (Preston Wilson, Trot Nixon, and yes Rick Ankiel) Thoughts?

12-19-2006, 08:37 PM	#15
Cardinal_Fan Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 44	Re: 3 Moves Krivsky Should Make Suppan got hot at just the right time last year for us. But look at this stats for the first half...they are not very good at all. The guy is too old to give an extended contract to. I dont think he is worth more than 8 million a year, but on this market that translates to 12-13 for 4 years. Suppan is just not worth that much money over 4 years. It would be a mistake for any team to sign him for that amount of money for that long!

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