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Old 01-09-2007, 09:50 PM   #61
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REM should issue an apology for the last 11 years of music they've put out. I never thought losing a drummer could make you lose your sense of melody, but good heavens, the last albums (partially with New Adventures in Hi-Fi but mostly starting with Up) have been almost unlistenable.
Almost? You are giving too much credit. Pure garbage IMHO.
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:57 PM   #62
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I've never understood why people say this. Are their songs complex? No. Are their lyrics deep and metaphysical? No Are they out trying to change the world for the cause dejour? No.

But do their songs rock? Yes. Are their songs entertaining? Yes. Do their songs cause a reaction or emotional responce? Yes. Did they bring something new and different to the music sceen? Yes. (I'm talking about the 70's/early 80's Kiss).

You may not care for their music but I don't think that takes away from being tallented. If it was so easy, why weren't there more bands following the exact same formula and making the same wild amounts of money? Seems to me if it was so easy, the lure of easy money would have had a strong allure to others to follow the same path.
I'm not sure a better song came out of the 70s than "Goin' Blind."
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:22 PM   #63
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Makes ya yern for the Clock Restaurant
I don't remember that, but there was a Greek place that had "coneys" and our first time there, we ordered three and they brought these footlong dogs out and the "chili" was sauted ground beef on it. Now that weren't chili, as they say somewhere! Can't remember the name of it. When we came back, the older students said, "oh, we meant to warn you Cincinnati guys about that".
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:40 PM   #64
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I don't remember that, but there was a Greek place that had "coneys" and our first time there, we ordered three and they brought these footlong dogs out and the "chili" was sauted ground beef on it. Now that weren't chili, as they say somewhere! Can't remember the name of it. When we came back, the older students said, "oh, we meant to warn you Cincinnati guys about that".
That's the coney I thought I was going to get when I moved to Cincinnati.

Needless to say, I was disappointed.
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:41 PM   #65
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I'm not sure a better song came out of the 70s than "Goin' Blind."
But you already said that Station to Station was the greatest song of all time.... I like that pick myself.
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:08 PM   #66
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I ate at the Clock a few months back. While ordering, I made a comment how the pictures of the food in the menu looked like they were taken back in the 70s. Little did I know that the picutres would look better than the food when it arrived. That was the worst meal I've ever eaten.

The Clock is creepy.

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Almost? You are giving too much credit. Pure garbage IMHO.
It's pretty bad. "Reveal" is my favorite of the terrible bunch. "Up" was plain awful.

This last CD featured a song where Michael Stipe uses proud as a noun. He claims he knows it doesn't make sense, but they left it alone. That's when you know bands have lost it, when they can change parts of speech.
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:48 PM   #67
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Where are The Moody Blues?
I coulda sworn they were inducted a few years back...no?
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:22 AM   #68
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Well, Sammy was a member.....
So was Gary Cherone, but he didn't make it in.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:35 AM   #69
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So was Gary Cherone, but he didn't make it in.
True, but I don't think that the Van Halen III album is considered Hall worthy. A lot of the Sammy Hagar VH stuff is good material. Same goes for the David Lee Roth VH years. Cherone? Notta. Might be "extreme" thinking to state otherwise!
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:18 AM   #70
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True, but I don't think that the Van Halen III album is considered Hall worthy. A lot of the Sammy Hagar VH stuff is good material. Same goes for the David Lee Roth VH years. Cherone? Notta. Might be "extreme" thinking to state otherwise!
Some of the Hagar stuff might be good....but is it hall worhty? At least the DLR years were formative to VH. I was always of the opinion that when Sammy joined the bands they became Night Ranger. For the most part, nothing but pop/rock, nothing I'd say was influential or ground breaking going on there....so why should Sammy get in as part of VH?
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:45 AM   #71
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Does it matter? Do rock musicians really aspire to make the Rock and Roll Hall of Lame? I doubt it, other than a possible boast in record sales for having thier names in the news.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:58 AM   #72
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I believe that one of the reasons Patti Smith made it in is because of her power as a live performer. She is said to be one of the greatest performers rock has ever known. This is even outside of her influence on the NY punk scene in the 70s, which was enormous, and the quality of her songs is good (she's quite original, especially lyrically of course). But she was apparently head and shoulders above most other musicians as a performer.

People are voted into the Hall for varied reasons. That's one reason I kind of like it. Most awards bug me because people are all competing for the same thing (baseball and Oscars are both based on "performance", for example), and yet there's no set criteria: it's still an award of opinion. For the Hall of Fame, at least they're blatant about it being opinion. You can get voted in for any number of things as long as they had an effect on music in some way.
Yeah, I saw her up at the Agora in Cleveland circa 1978(?) back in my clubbing days. She was good with lots of energy with a passionate following. I thought she was cool in those punk times, hairy armpits, skanky hair and clothes and all. I saw a *lot* of good shows around then and while hers was good, there were a ton of great shows I saw around then and I certainly wouldn't say it stood out as best of all time (which is a whole different topic). It's like the Grateful Dead for me, I just never understood what the big deal was. It's all subjective and JMHO.

I did like Gilda Radner's version of Patti on SNL.
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:03 AM   #73
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That made me laugh out loud. This may be true, but I always liked Night Ranger in a so bad it's good sort of way.

"Sentimental Street" has to be one of the worst song titles in history, though I like the song.
It's "When You Close Your Eyes" Part Deux.
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That made me laugh out loud. This may be true, but I always liked Night Ranger in a so bad it's good sort of way.

"Sentimental Street" has to be one of the worst song titles in history, though I like the song.
It's "When You Close Your Eyes" Part Deux.
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:26 AM   #75
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I cannot hear Sister Christen without thinking of Alfred Molina air strumming along.

Kinda like Van Halen's Dancing The Night Away and one of the few good scenes in Mission To Mars.
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