Kyle Lohse

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by redsgabp

i doubt we will have loshe next year.

i could be wrong but next year i see our rotation as
1)Aaron Harang
2)Bronson Arroyo
3)Homer Bailey
4)Matt Belisle
5)Elizardo Ramírez

color me with rose glasses but i think this would be a very good 1-5

Homer will be cheap along with Elizardo Ramírez and Matt Belisle

this will free up a new contract for adam dun i hope!

That means the money being spent on Milton and Lohse goes where?

a) Bob's pocket
b) The lineup
c) Relief help

[kbrake]

Not trying to take anything from Loshe but the ump had a huge strike zone today, for both sides. It was obvious he had something important to do tonight. As good as Loshe was he probably got quite a few calls today that he will not be able to count on all season.

[Will M]

I stated all winter that I thought Lohse would have a good year.
He has the talent of course.
Why now? - if he can keep it together for 1 year he can get some team to pay him big bucks next winter when he is a free agent.

I'll stand by my previous prediction:
W-L 15-10, ERA 4.25 , innings 200+

[MaineRed]

Originally Posted by kbrake

Not trying to take anything from Loshe but the ump had a huge strike zone today, for both sides. It was obvious he had something important to do tonight. As good as Loshe was he probably got quite a few calls today that he will not be able to count on all season.

I won't disagree but on the most controversial call of the day, the one that that drew the most heat from a Cub, the strike three call on Lee, it was clearly a strike, a good inche above the knee.

The ump was giving the low strike, big time. But I think more umps should be doing that.

Props to Lohse. We need someone to step up with the team struggling to get Arroyo a win. Nicely done Kyle.

[Chip R]

He's consistantly inconsistant. Next time out he may give up 6 runs in 3 innings. Someone is going to overpay for him next year. Hopefully it won't be us.

Originally Posted by edabbs44

That means the money being spent on Milton and Lohse goes where?

a) Bob's pocket
b) The lineup
c) Relief help

A)Bronson Arroyo will have a bigger salary next year.

B)adam dunns option next year will be pretty big.

C)i hope a free agent closer

[RedFanAlways1966]

Originally Posted by Chip R

He's consistantly inconsistant. Next time out he may give up 6 runs in 3 innings. Someone is going to overpay for him next year. Hopefully it won't be us.

Yep. I am not getting too excited yet. Last year his first 4 starts for the REDS made him seem like the future. Then he showed us why Minnesota was willing to let him go...

1st 4 starts
* 1.37 ERA, 0.96 WHIP.

Last 7 starts
* 6.81 ERA, 1.68 WHIP.

I'll hope for the best, but I won't bet my lunch money on it panning out.

[mth123]

Originally Posted by Chip R

He's consistantly inconsistant. Next time out he may give up 6 runs in 3 innings. Someone is going to overpay for him next year. Hopefully it won't be us.

Ab-so-lutely!

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by redsgabp

A)Bronson Arroyo will have a bigger salary next year.

B)adam dunns option next year will be pretty big.

C)i hope a free agent closer

That's why Cincy always seems to plateau and doesn't make any huge leaps...any contracts coming off the books are already devoured by upcoming salary increases. It would be nice once in a while to have $10 or 15 million to blow on a free agent.

[PuffyPig]

Would anyone still prefer to have a guy like Livingston pitch instead of him this season?

Originally Posted by edabbs44

That's why Cincy always seems to plateau and doesn't make any huge leaps...any contracts coming off the books are already devoured by upcoming salary increases. It would be nice once in a while to have $10 or 15 million to blow on a free agent.

had we not gave Bronson Arroyo a bigger contract he would of left...

if we dont pick up dunns option then we have next to no offense.

i could see us picking up 1 big name person next year to make a playoff run.

most of our team will be dirty cheap...
such as...
homer bailey
josh hamilton
joey votto... assuming all goes right
elizardo ramirez... assuming all works out
matt belise

the best thing about 08's season is that i think it will be griffeys last!

a outfield of these three will look pretty good...
hamilton CF
dunn LF
Jay Bruce RF


this team is starting to build something special down the road.
i just hope we can blossom a little early and make it in this year.

Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Would anyone still prefer to have a guy like Livingston pitch instead of him this season?

Livingston > milton

i would start Livingston any day over milton

[PuffyPig]

Originally Posted by redsgabp

Livingston > milton

i would start Livingston any day over milton

Sorry, meant Lohse vs. Livingston.

Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Sorry, meant Lohse vs. Livingston.

i dont know about starting livingston over lohse but you have 2 pretty good guys in AAA.

one of them homer.
if they don't want to bring up homer, i say they should give Phil Dumatrait a shot over milton.

[Reds Freak]

I loved the umpire's strike zone today. Obviously MLB hitters didn't like it because they are used to strike zone's the size of a shoe box. No wonder home runs have gone up in recent years because pitcher's have to throw it right down the belt to get a called strike. It's time that umpires start calling the whole plate giving some advantage back to the pitcher. I was watching one of the Reds 1990 playoff games this past winter and was amazed at how big the strike zone was back then. It was at least an inch bigger on all sides then it is now. And hitters still managed to hit the ball.